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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#141 Postby St0rmTh0r » Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:31 am

That's a powerful storm GFS has. One of the strongest runs of the year. This should have everyones attention too. Laura may have just been the appetizer.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#142 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:24 am

St0rmTh0r wrote:That's a powerful storm GFS has. One of the strongest runs of the year. This should have everyones attention too. Laura may have just been the appetizer.


I think it’s positioning and lack of a strong Extensive Bermuda high above it will mean that it will probably be largely ignored, due to the high out to sea probability. I do hope it doesn’t hit our friends in Bermuda though
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#143 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:43 pm

Pretty solid signal for a long-track recurver on GEFS-P

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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#144 Postby GCANE » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:43 pm

Fancy1001 wrote:
GCANE wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:It looked to me like the storm was heading Northwest in the last few frames. I couldn't imagine if a storm of that size and strength hit New York City.


Yup, I was thinking the same.

Do you think the high pressure system above it would prevent it from going out to sea and force it inland, or do you think it would be strong enough to ignore the high pressure system and be forced Eastward by the trough, or at least I think it's at trough lol.


I believe it is trending more west.
Of course its to early to say for sure.
A lot can happen, many dynamic factors in play.
Just need to keep an eye on it and try to figure its next move.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#145 Postby Extratropical94 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:52 pm

Another tropical wave is located over the eastern Atlantic Ocean
just west of the Cabo Verde Islands. The northern part of this
wave, which should move rapidly westward over the central
Atlantic during the next few days, is not forecast to develop as it
is expected to remain in unfavorable environmental conditions.
However, the southern part of the wave is expected to be nearly
stationary south of the Cabo Verde Islands for the next several
days, and some development of this system is possible early next
week when it begins to move slowly westward over the eastern and
central tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#146 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:07 pm

That’s a weird discussion above. The top part of the wave will be moving rapidly, and the bottom half will be stationary? lol
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#147 Postby WxEp » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:20 pm

UKMET appears to keep it nearly stationary for the next several days since as far as I can tell it's referring to this wave.

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 120 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+120 : 13.6N 27.7W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 02.09.2020 120 13.6N 27.7W 1008 27
0000UTC 03.09.2020 132 15.0N 28.7W 1007 27
1200UTC 03.09.2020 144 15.3N 31.4W 1004 34
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#148 Postby CyclonicFury » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:37 pm

This may be a slow, complex genesis that the models will likely struggle with. They may flip flop between development and no development until (if) a well-defined center forms.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#149 Postby tiger_deF » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:40 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:This may be a slow, complex genesis that the models will likely struggle with. They may flip flop between development and no development until (if) a well-defined center forms.


Reminds me of another system :eek:
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#150 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:55 pm

tiger_deF wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:This may be a slow, complex genesis that the models will likely struggle with. They may flip flop between development and no development until (if) a well-defined center forms.


Reminds me of another system :eek:


Which one?
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#151 Postby wx98 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:58 pm

cycloneye wrote:
tiger_deF wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:This may be a slow, complex genesis that the models will likely struggle with. They may flip flop between development and no development until (if) a well-defined center forms.


Reminds me of another system :eek:


Which one?


Laura?
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#152 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:00 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:This may be a slow, complex genesis that the models will likely struggle with. They may flip flop between development and no development until (if) a well-defined center forms.

That’s the theme this season. Waves struggling to develop in the Tropical Atlantic until they reach 50-60°W, meaning land impact becomes increasingly likely. Assuming a trough doesn’t setup shop along the U.S. East coast.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#153 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:01 pm

tiger_deF wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:This may be a slow, complex genesis that the models will likely struggle with. They may flip flop between development and no development until (if) a well-defined center forms.


Reminds me of another system :eek:

Reminds me of two other systems at least!
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#154 Postby sma10 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:06 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:This may be a slow, complex genesis that the models will likely struggle with. They may flip flop between development and no development until (if) a well-defined center forms.


Yes, I think it's fair to say this will be similar to Laura's genesis in that you're going to have numerous areas of low pressure along the ITCZ for the next few days before breaking free. I predict lots of different model solutions, and we can basically ignore them somewhat because, like Laura, we will not know much until (if) it actually forms
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#155 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:12 pm

120 to 240 hours ECMWF and GFS animations:

ECMWF:
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GFS:
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#156 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:21 pm



Lol, does not even make past 60w. Nice ace while we :sleeping:
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#157 Postby Nimbus » Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:23 pm

The forecast sounded like another ITCZ Suckling.
Early model runs favor out to sea solutions, but if there is real hope of the Summer Atlantic ridge breaking down I suppose it was worth looking at the long range model runs.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#158 Postby Visioen » Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:28 pm

St0rmTh0r wrote:That's a powerful storm GFS has. One of the strongest runs of the year. This should have everyones attention too. Laura may have just been the appetizer.

If true, then I forecast severe indigestion.
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#159 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:27 pm

I still think there will be a couple more hurricanes this season effecting land(in addition to several not affecting land) but I think the remainder of the storms will come from the Carib or Gulf
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Re: Tropical Wave off the African Coast

#160 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:59 pm

At this point since the global models are completely useless, it’s nowcasting. While the 12z GFS showed development in a week the 18z doesn’t show anything significant (not sure if it’s from this wave or not) until beyond 300hrs.
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