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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2561 Postby drezee » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:39 am

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2562 Postby sponger » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:44 am

Looking awfully healthy this morning. A high risk of a major in a few days. At least it may spare New Orleans but this could be one large strong beast to threaten Texas and Western LA in a way not seen since Harvey. I would be finishing prepping today and avoid the coming chaos. If you are coastal and need to move out of harm's way, a hotel reservation where you can cancel same day is your first priority. Just plan on leaving in the middle of the night because we all remember the Rita fiasco from inlanders fleeing when they should have stayed put.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2564 Postby Nederlander » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:46 am

sponger wrote:Looking awfully healthy this morning. A high risk of a major in a few days. At least it may spare New Orleans but this could be one large strong beast to threaten Texas in a way not seen since Harvey. I would be finishing prepping today and avoid the coming chaos.

Yep, I have my evac plans in place here in Port Arthur, gassed up and ready. Just have to secure some outdoor objects today. Local Mets beginning to sound the alarm that people need to be ready.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2565 Postby sponger » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:50 am

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sponger wrote:Looking awfully healthy this morning. A high risk of a major in a few days. At least it may spare New Orleans but this could be one large strong beast to threaten Texas in a way not seen since Harvey. I would be finishing prepping today and avoid the coming chaos.

Yep, I have my evac plans in place here in Port Arthur, gassed up and ready. Just have to secure some outdoor objects today. Local Mets beginning to sound the alarm that people need to be ready.


Definitely not your first Rodeo! Glad you are ready! Where is your bug out location? I would think San Antonio would be ideal for anyone looking to get out of dodge in your area.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2566 Postby Michele B » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:53 am



This clip looks like the CoC is on the south side and has missed the mountains.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2567 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:55 am

Laura is looking very impressive this morning. She is still expanding in size and the outflow is very impressive. Basically, looking downstream, it is an extremely ominous outlook for interests particularly along the North Central and Northwest Gulf in Louisiana and Texas in a few days. Conditions really appear to be as favorable as it can be for Laura to become an extremely dangerous major tropical cyclone.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2568 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:57 am

Cant believe this scrapped along the entire south coast of HIspaniola.

from some surface obs and recon and satellite

center is somewhere near Port Au prine or just south..

could easily go south of Cuba as well at this point before hitting the weakness behind Marco.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2569 Postby aspen » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:59 am

Still an awfully broad system, and now it looks like we’re even less certain where the center will reform/tighten up. Will it attempt to go north? Will it try to go south of Cuba? Will it continue to ride the islands?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2570 Postby SoupBone » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:05 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Cant believe this scrapped along the entire south coast of HIspaniola.

from some surface obs and recon and satellite

center is somewhere near Port Au prine or just south..

could easily go south of Cuba as well at this point before hitting the weakness behind Marco.


I've asked this previously, but wouldn't this also mean following in Marco's path?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2571 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:05 am

Posted the 12Z SHIPS output in the model thread, but I think it's worth sharing this bit of it here.

TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96
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SHEAR (KT) 11 14 16 17 16 9 11 4 12 12 16
SHEAR ADJ (KT) 6 3 0 -2 1 -2 1 -2 -3 -2 3
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2572 Postby Nederlander » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:06 am

sponger wrote:
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sponger wrote:Looking awfully healthy this morning. A high risk of a major in a few days. At least it may spare New Orleans but this could be one large strong beast to threaten Texas in a way not seen since Harvey. I would be finishing prepping today and avoid the coming chaos.

Yep, I have my evac plans in place here in Port Arthur, gassed up and ready. Just have to secure some outdoor objects today. Local Mets beginning to sound the alarm that people need to be ready.


Definitely not your first Rodeo! Glad you are ready! Where is your bug out location? I would think San Antonio would be ideal for anyone looking to get out of dodge in your area.
I will be heading to Dallas. More road options heading north than there is going west. Plus, I want to avoid Houston traffic if at all possible.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2573 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:07 am

SoupBone wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Cant believe this scrapped along the entire south coast of HIspaniola.

from some surface obs and recon and satellite

center is somewhere near Port Au prine or just south..

could easily go south of Cuba as well at this point before hitting the weakness behind Marco.


I've asked this previously, but wouldn't this also mean following in Marco's path?


it would not follow it exactly of course.. but would at the very least allow for a bend in the track. hard to say at this point.


but there is a weakness as long as Marco continues to exist at the mid levels.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2574 Postby sponger » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:09 am

Nederlander wrote:
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Nederlander wrote:Yep, I have my evac plans in place here in Port Arthur, gassed up and ready. Just have to secure some outdoor objects today. Local Mets beginning to sound the alarm that people need to be ready.


Definitely not your first Rodeo! Glad you are ready! Where is your bug out location? I would think San Antonio would be ideal for anyone looking to get out of dodge in your area.
I will be heading to Dallas. More road options heading north than there is going west. Plus, I want to avoid Houston traffic if at all possible.


Now that is a bug out plan! Right at the edge of my maximum evac at 300 miles. Leave at 2 am and you are there in four hours, leave at 8 am and it can be 20 hours. Always avoid the herd at all costs.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2575 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:20 am

SoupBone wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Cant believe this scrapped along the entire south coast of HIspaniola.

from some surface obs and recon and satellite

center is somewhere near Port Au prine or just south..

could easily go south of Cuba as well at this point before hitting the weakness behind Marco.


I've asked this previously, but wouldn't this also mean following in Marco's path?


That is what Laura will ultimately do , provided that Marco does not become a very strong cyclone, which could leave behind a bigger weakness. However, if it goes as forecast, Marco will weaken as it approaches the North Central Gulf late Monday, and the ridge will build in strong to guide Laura right on Marco's heels as he exits the area.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2576 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:23 am

All Marco is doing is moistening the environment ahead for Laura, remaining weak as a strong tropical storm or weak hurricane do to windshear is not going to upwell much cooler waters in the GOM.Laura will continue to have the best UL conditions and while it maintains a vigorous ML circulation the high terrain of Hispaniola & Cuba will not do too much to it.Image
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2577 Postby SoupBone » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:25 am

northjaxpro wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Cant believe this scrapped along the entire south coast of HIspaniola.

from some surface obs and recon and satellite

center is somewhere near Port Au prine or just south..

could easily go south of Cuba as well at this point before hitting the weakness behind Marco.


I've asked this previously, but wouldn't this also mean following in Marco's path?


That is what Laura will ultimately do , provided that Marco does not become a very strong cyclone, which could leave behind a bigger weakness. However, if it goes as forecast, Marco will weaken as it approaches the North Central Gulf late Monday, and the ridge will build in strong to guide Laura right on Marco's heels.


Right, and I guess that's my point. Following in Marco's weakness, at least mostly, would still lend itself to a Central Louisiana solution unless the ridge builds back in faster than expected behind Marco. So Marco's timing and placement will be key to Laura's ultimate arrival track.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2578 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:30 am

Laura's a 2nd example this year that Hispaniola doesn't always end up being detrimental to storms. The stronger storms with tight cores take a harsher beating and sometimes just outright die after interacting with the mountains while very weak poorly put together storms don't see much of a negative effect
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2580 Postby sponger » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:34 am

SoupBone wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
I've asked this previously, but wouldn't this also mean following in Marco's path?


That is what Laura will ultimately do , provided that Marco does not become a very strong cyclone, which could leave behind a bigger weakness. However, if it goes as forecast, Marco will weaken as it approaches the North Central Gulf late Monday, and the ridge will build in strong to guide Laura right on Marco's heels.


Right, and I guess that's my point. Following in Marco's weakness, at least mostly, would still lend itself to a Central Louisiana solution unless the ridge builds back in faster than expected behind Marco. So Marco's timing and placement will be key to Laura's ultimate arrival track.


"unless the ridge builds back in"
That is exactly what the Euro is forecasting. It seems to have a better grasp than the GPS on the more Southern track over Cuba and may end up nailing the expanding ridge as well.
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