ATL: LAURA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2041 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:26 am

Weatherboy1 wrote:
HURRICANELONNY wrote:How come some are saying laura is n.e. of puerto rico. The lats have it at 17.7n 66w. That would be s.e. of puerto rico :roll:


Surface obs/satellite etc suggest center relocated/“bounced” to north side of island. Would expect 11 am NHC discussion to address this but we will see soon


What surface obs? Certainly not what radar suggesting this morning it could even be forming further south.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2042 Postby supercane4867 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:28 am

Land interaction with Hispaniola could help Laura to organize just like it did with Isaias. The southern vortex dies off once it hits rugged terrain thus allowing the system to focus on the LLC to the north. Looks like this is what HWRF trying to do as well.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2043 Postby StAuggy » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:30 am

Weatherboy1 wrote:
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lhpfish wrote:Is it possible a stronger Marco influences Laura to move further East? Is it out of the question this could still come into south Florida?


I’d say there’s still a small threat to extreme south Florida like homestead south. We will know more in the next 12 hours


I don’t think Laura gets as far north as me (Palm Beach County) but I would keep a close eye on Marco here. Heading much more N than NW for several hours now and missing forecast points in a noteworthy fashion. If he doesn’t get shunted more west soon ... and Laura plays “catch up” from the East? Hard to see her making it as far west in the Gulf because ridge wouldn’t be able to build as far west in time. Interesting dynamic to watch for sure


If Marco bombs out today and makes a beeline to the central/NE gulf coast is there even a possibility that Laura could go west of its track? Wouldn’t it just follow the weakness in the ridge left from Marco?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2044 Postby AnnularCane » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:31 am

I've got a question... The 5 am discussion for Laura stated that she had weakened a bit since last night. However, it also said she had gotten better organized. Am I missing something? Or is this storm just being weird? :lol:
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2045 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:32 am

so using the TDR radar on the north coast.. here is the llc at less than 500 feet.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2046 Postby HuracanMaster » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:34 am

Starting to get some rain now.http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5f412cbd477c5/Screen_Recording_20200822-102648_RadarScope.mp4

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2047 Postby aspen » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:35 am

If convection can fire some more around the LLC, then the center of Laura will be dragged further north and the mountainous terrain of Hispaniola can kill the MLC and whatever LLC it’s trying to form, similar to Isaias. Although at this rate I’m not ruling out the MLC becoming dominant and Laura staying in the Caribbean.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2048 Postby blp » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:35 am

alienstorm wrote:According to the radar it is almost certain that the new center of Laura is south of San Juan

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6605/zgRwIb.gif


Agreed. Its vigorous and looks to be heading more WNW.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2049 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:36 am

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2050 Postby robbielyn » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:37 am

Aric Dunn wrote:so using the TDR radar on the north coast.. here is the llc at less than 500 feet.

https://i.ibb.co/yk18nnZ/Capture.png


Aric, do u still think the llc to the north will take over? Levi said it looks like the mlc is trying to create its own llc because it is developing west winds. ur thoughts?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2051 Postby robbielyn » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:39 am

tolakram wrote:saved loop

https://i.imgur.com/zyKp9qI.gif


by looks of that radar looks like the mlc will be the dominant has it’s own llc south of PR.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2052 Postby blp » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:40 am

Aric Dunn wrote:so using the TDR radar on the north coast.. here is the llc at less than 500 feet.

https://i.ibb.co/yk18nnZ/Capture.png


Aric, I see it here. Does look to be exiting the North coast. Do you think it will be able to drag the MLC far enough north to avoid significant land interaction. That MLC is looking real nice right now.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2053 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:41 am

robbielyn wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:so using the TDR radar on the north coast.. here is the llc at less than 500 feet.

https://i.ibb.co/yk18nnZ/Capture.png


Aric, do u still think the llc to the north will take over? Levi said it looks like the mlc is trying to create its own llc because it is developing west winds. ur thoughts?


The LLC north of PR will have to develop some convection..

but the MLC will eventually die without the low level convergence from the LLC..

to further the demise of the MLC.. will be it going over PR and HIspaniola.. so the outlook for the MLC is not looking good.

but its a complex situation as you can imagine. So we wait..

12z models for Laura will be moot if they initialize the MLC.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2054 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:42 am

So it’s possible we’ve been following an eddy being spit out and there may be a stronger LLC SSE of that under the MLC, this will track over the islands and weaken and make this maybe a weaker system in the GOM but also much larger and spread out but more like the NHC forecast instead of what the intensity models have
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2055 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:44 am

11:00 AM AST Sat Aug 22
Location: 17.8°N 66.8°W
Moving: W at 18 mph
Min pressure: 1006 mb
Max sustained: 40 mph


There is nothing NE or north of PR.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2056 Postby alienstorm » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:44 am

11 AM Advisory puts it SW of Ponce PR - sorry but I dont see that.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2057 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:46 am

cycloneye wrote:11:00 AM AST Sat Aug 22
Location: 17.8°N 66.8°W
Moving: W at 18 mph
Min pressure: 1006 mb
Max sustained: 40 mph



There is nothing NE or north of PR.


that position is well ahead of the MLC is clear air.. maybe they just split the difference.

either that or the eddy that typically develops in the MONA passage is what they are thinking might happen.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2058 Postby hipshot » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:47 am

tolakram wrote:saved loop

https://i.imgur.com/zyKp9qI.gif

Unless what I'm seeing is the mid level circulation, the llc looks to be south of PR
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2059 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:48 am

I think the LLC is forming or consolidating SW of PR.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2060 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:49 am

Based on the NHC, that LLC we were following seems to have been an eddy after all and seems to be slowly fading, looks like the three island track is coming up
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