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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1921 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:06 pm



Other countries need to adjust the warnings too. As far as shifts, I don't think it's the last one either.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1922 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:07 pm

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wow NHC has it going right over the islands, yet still getting to hurricane strength in the gulf...interesting


As long as there is somewhat of a core when it leaves Cuba, the environment favors significant, possibly rapid, intensification. If a solid core exists there, look out.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1923 Postby toad strangler » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:09 pm

Weather Dude wrote:

wow NHC has it going right over the islands, yet still getting to hurricane strength in the gulf...interesting


Laura is a weak mess. A perfect candidate to just float on through the entire GA chain.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1924 Postby cjrciadt » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:09 pm

Laura taking the island criuse route since us humans cannot enjoy criuses this season. :wink:
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1925 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:09 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
Weather Dude wrote:

wow NHC has it going right over the islands, yet still getting to hurricane strength in the gulf...interesting


As long as there is somewhat of a core when it leaves Cuba, the environment favors significant, possibly rapid, intensification. If a solid core exists there, look out.

Yeah a storm with a decent core entering the gulf in August has bad news written all over it.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1926 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:16 pm



This is a nightmare. This track is almost identical now to the 1900 Galveston Hurricane. I hope Laura dies.
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#1927 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:17 pm

Is it the forward speed that makes it look like the longest 5 day cone ever?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1928 Postby AJC3 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:25 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Is it the forward speed that makes it look like the longest 5 day cone ever?


Yes. It's one of the longer ones you'll see for a TC moving W-NW at those latitudes. However, the largest cones I've ever seen for TCs were those for recurving/accelerating into the westerlies and across the north Atlantic.

You'll find several examples of those in the NHC storm graphic archives. Here's one of the final ones for Dorian last year.

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#1929 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:40 pm

AJC3 wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Is it the forward speed that makes it look like the longest 5 day cone ever?


Yes. It's one of the longer ones you'll see for a TC moving W-NW at those latitudes. However, the largest cones I've ever seen for TCs were those for recurving/accelerating into the westerlies and across the north Atlantic.

You'll find several examples of those in the NHC storm graphic archives. Here's one of the final ones for Dorian last year.

https://i.imgur.com/RDfXLpH.jpg


Ya that’s massive. I think this is the longest one I’ve seen coming from the Atlantic through the Caribbean and gulf

Wilma was moving lightning fast when she came through here and just kept trucking. That cone was pretty long too. It was one of the weirder storms because it left a cold front behind it was in the 50s the next day.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1930 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:43 pm

that convection east of PR is quickly showing signs of an llc.. couple that with the surface obs.. looking good.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1931 Postby Hurricane Mike » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:44 pm

Late night video update on Laura and Marco:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkotJPZOPiE
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1932 Postby Kazmit » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:45 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:that convection east of PR is quickly showing signs of an llc.. couple that with the surface obs.. looking good.

https://i.ibb.co/L6QF4P7/7.gif

I thought it was reforming near Guadeloupe?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1933 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:48 pm

Kazmit wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:that convection east of PR is quickly showing signs of an llc.. couple that with the surface obs.. looking good.

https://i.ibb.co/L6QF4P7/7.gif

I thought it was reforming near Guadeloupe?


There was/is a vort down there too. but convection collapsed.

I mentioned there were multiple eddys and all any of them need was some sustained convection.

unlike the others.. we have some surface obs with this one.

It is a tricky situation for sure..
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1934 Postby KC7NEC » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:55 pm

Any thoughts or ideas how having storms on both sides of the gulf could impact Recon? Seems its going to be a resource challenge?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1935 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:02 pm

KC7NEC wrote:Any thoughts or ideas how having storms on both sides of the gulf could impact Recon? Seems its going to be a resource challenge?


That's Aric/GCANE. NHC mostly said wait and see. "Uncertain" was used in both discussions about the possibility.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1936 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:23 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:that convection east of PR is quickly showing signs of an llc.. couple that with the surface obs.. looking good.

https://i.ibb.co/L6QF4P7/7.gif


The 18z HWRF shows the low with a blob of deep convection very similar to what is happening now. If the center reforms the HWRF nailed it.
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#1937 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:24 pm

I may be getting tired, and it looks like a convective burst happens over the LLC for once but looking at long range Puerto Rican radar is showing a due west motion instead of a WNW motion and if current motion continues it would scrape the south coast of Puerto Rico
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1938 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:27 pm

A couple of Mets mentioned that they don't think this is the last south shift, meaning that there's a good chance that this may end up in the Carib. Question is, if so, how will it be influenced by TD 14?
Also, if it ends up in the Carib, I think at the very least it will hold its strength meaning much more of a chance of stronger intensification once it enters the gulf.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1939 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:30 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
Weather Dude wrote:

wow NHC has it going right over the islands, yet still getting to hurricane strength in the gulf...interesting


As long as there is somewhat of a core when it leaves Cuba, the environment favors significant, possibly rapid, intensification. If a solid core exists there, look out.


Hey CrazyC83, I have a question, why is it that I've others as well mention that this could strengthen quickly in the Gulf, yet T14 will be entering the gulf and the NHC doesn't have that one strengthen very fast at all, even has it weakening prior to landfall? Just curious what the difference between the two are?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1940 Postby SoupBone » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:36 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:A couple of Mets mentioned that they don't think this is the last south shift, meaning that there's a good chance that this may end up in the Carib. Question is, if so, how will it be influenced by TD 14?
Also, if it ends up in the Carib, I think at the very least it will hold its strength meaning much more of a chance of stronger intensification once it enters the gulf.


I think some of the Euro ensembles showed something crossing th GoM heading west and into Tex/Mex. It just seems like a crazy possibility.
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