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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#121 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:04 pm

BYG Jacob wrote:People are really gonna down play a storm in the gulf?


As incredulous as that is, there are a few out there which are actually doing it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#122 Postby BYG Jacob » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:00 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
BYG Jacob wrote:People are really gonna down play a storm in the gulf?


As incredulous as that is, there are a few out there which are actually doing it.

How many times does the gulf have to teach us the lesson to never turn your back on it?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#123 Postby aspen » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:01 pm

BYG Jacob wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
BYG Jacob wrote:People are really gonna down play a storm in the gulf?


As incredulous as that is, there are a few out there which are actually doing it.

How many times does the gulf have to teach us the lesson to never turn your back on it?

Just look at Hanna. Models were showing almost nothing, but it rapidly intensified into a high end Cat 1 in the final hours before landfall...and that was in July.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#124 Postby BYG Jacob » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:03 pm

aspen wrote:
BYG Jacob wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
As incredulous as that is, there are a few out there which are actually doing it.

How many times does the gulf have to teach us the lesson to never turn your back on it?

Just look at Hanna. Models were showing almost nothing, but it rapidly intensified into a high end Cat 1 in the final hours before landfall...and that was in July.

Or Michael, Katrina, Rita, Charley. This list goes on.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#125 Postby EquusStorm » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:05 pm

With water temperatures like that, might even be able to pull a Humberto; doesn't take long sometimes.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#126 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:12 pm

EquusStorm wrote:With water temperatures like that, might even be able to pull a Humberto; doesn't take long sometimes.


Ugh. I do not want to talk about Humberto. I went to bed and it was just a tropical storm. Within a few hours, I woke up to the sound of a hurricane. He didn't cause too much damage at my location, but he still was a lot stronger than I had hoped.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#127 Postby HurricaneBelle » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:45 pm

Sorry, this was all I could think of reading this thread:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#128 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:04 pm

Haha, funny image. It’s true though. I think 97L is going to suprise lots of folks as it moves through the Carib.

And it’s sitting way to low to be an out to sea storm
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#129 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:05 pm

Vorticity this afternoon as drastically increased as the wave axis has crossed into the eastern carrib. even a little vort has developed west of Grenada and St vincent. really curious to see what the overnight brings..

the wave axis is quite a bit ahead of schedule.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#130 Postby psyclone » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:12 pm

That meme never gets old. Long range model runs should be safely locked away from children...and adults who act like children. Oh screw that...haven't we been waiting like 9 months for this sort of late night, pulse quickening tracking? Of course we have. It's our favorite sickness. Welcome back everyone and welcome to late August...time for a multi course serving of something...for someone.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#131 Postby sma10 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:35 pm

The way 2020 has gone, the safe bet is to assume that by late weekend both systems will be ramped up and everyone will be going crazy
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#132 Postby Steve » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:35 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
BYG Jacob wrote:People are really gonna down play a storm in the gulf?


As incredulous as that is, there are a few out there which are actually doing it.


I think we all have to be realistic though. I posted yesterday that I thought it could potentially make a run at a moderate cane and got some flack for that. I didn't say it couldn't get to major status and I didn't downplay it for a wash-out. And I don't ever argue with western Gulf processes. But there's only so much energy in a given area in a given pattern. Like wxman57 said, this is the forerunner for what looks to be a much more substantial system. We see that pretty often when there is a 1-2 shot at the Gulf. It's not always the second system that is stronger, but often the first clears the path for the system behind.

So I'm not down-playing 97L. But I'm not scared out of my wits yet either.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#133 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:45 pm

We have some developing meso rotation showing up on radar now right near St Vincent. Satellite also showing much-increased curvature.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#134 Postby johngaltfla » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:46 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
BYG Jacob wrote:People are really gonna down play a storm in the gulf?


As incredulous as that is, there are a few out there which are actually doing it.


Any GoM storm will probably be a monster, no way anyone who lives on/near the Gulf Coast should be downplaying this scenario for either Invest.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#135 Postby 3090 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:49 pm

Steve wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
BYG Jacob wrote:People are really gonna down play a storm in the gulf?


As incredulous as that is, there are a few out there which are actually doing it.


I think we all have to be realistic though. I posted yesterday that I thought it could potentially make a run at a moderate cane and got some flack for that. I didn't say it couldn't get to major status and I didn't downplay it for a wash-out. And I don't ever argue with western Gulf processes. But there's only so much energy in a given area in a given pattern. Like wxman57 said, this is the forerunner for what looks to be a much more substantial system. We see that pretty often when there is a 1-2 shot at the Gulf. It's not always the second system that is stronger, but often the first clears the path for the system behind.

So I'm not down-playing 97L. But I'm not scared out of my wits yet either.


I think it is out right foolish to say; “I am not worried about X. I am worried about Y”. Unless you are god. Last time I looked, there are no gods on this board.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#136 Postby toad strangler » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:50 pm

3090 wrote:
Steve wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
As incredulous as that is, there are a few out there which are actually doing it.


I think we all have to be realistic though. I posted yesterday that I thought it could potentially make a run at a moderate cane and got some flack for that. I didn't say it couldn't get to major status and I didn't downplay it for a wash-out. And I don't ever argue with western Gulf processes. But there's only so much energy in a given area in a given pattern. Like wxman57 said, this is the forerunner for what looks to be a much more substantial system. We see that pretty often when there is a 1-2 shot at the Gulf. It's not always the second system that is stronger, but often the first clears the path for the system behind.

So I'm not down-playing 97L. But I'm not scared out of my wits yet either.


I think it is out right foolish to say; “I am not worried about X. I am worried about Y”. Unless you are god. Last time I looked, there are no gods on this board.


I'm more worried about Y
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#137 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:16 pm

toad strangler wrote:
3090 wrote:
Steve wrote:
I think we all have to be realistic though. I posted yesterday that I thought it could potentially make a run at a moderate cane and got some flack for that. I didn't say it couldn't get to major status and I didn't downplay it for a wash-out. And I don't ever argue with western Gulf processes. But there's only so much energy in a given area in a given pattern. Like wxman57 said, this is the forerunner for what looks to be a much more substantial system. We see that pretty often when there is a 1-2 shot at the Gulf. It's not always the second system that is stronger, but often the first clears the path for the system behind.

So I'm not down-playing 97L. But I'm not scared out of my wits yet either.


I think it is out right foolish to say; “I am not worried about X. I am worried about Y”. Unless you are god. Last time I looked, there are no gods on this board.


I'm more worried about Y


I’m equally concerned about both. Also equally skeptical until they form.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#138 Postby St0rmTh0r » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:43 pm

The main point should be there are two tropical entities moving towards land masses with plenty of time over water during the back end of August. Someone's likely to get hit the question is who and how bad. It's fun to speculate but nobody will know anything till this weekend
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#139 Postby shiny-pebble » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:45 pm

Lots of convection firing off, and looking like its getting more consolidated.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#140 Postby Nimbus » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:46 pm

Levi mentioned the shear in the Caribbean isn't quite as bad as it was earlier in the season.
I could see a tumbleweed system get its act together near Jamaica and possibly shoot the Yucatan channel as it spun up.
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