ATL: JOSEPHINE - Remnants - Discussion
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Another high-helicity tower.
Seems to happen about this time every day.
That'll get all those little stray vorts lined up.
Seems to happen about this time every day.
That'll get all those little stray vorts lined up.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Whatever its classification as a wave or a tropical storm, it's certainly got pretty nice convective persistence on the north side; would prefer to not be under that in a small craft
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Some arc clouds west of the main convective mass suggest that dry air is entraining into the system. However, where this dry air is coming from is not readily apparent in satellite imagery or model analyses.
Hmmm... From the discussion
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Ubuntwo wrote:Some arc clouds west of the main convective mass suggest that dry air is entraining into the system. However, where this dry air is coming from is not readily apparent in satellite imagery or model analyses.
Hmmm... From the discussion
A developing dry slot?
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
I still can't pick out a circulation center. Here's a sat pic valid 21Z, same time as the NHC advisory. Jack's (Beven) position is marked (14.5N/50.6W). I don't see anything there when I run the loop back a bit. I still think it's likely an open wave that will hit a wall of shear in 24 hrs.

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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
wxman57 wrote:I still can't pick out a circulation center. Here's a sat pic valid 21Z, same time as the NHC advisory. Jack's (Beven) position is marked (14.5N/50.6W). I don't see anything there when I run the loop back a bit. I still think it's likely an open wave that will hit a wall of shear in 24 hrs.
http://wxman57.com/images/Josephine4.JPG
I'm not sure what you're talking about, the circulation is fairly obviously here when looking at the loop

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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
I thought it might have a chance as it recurves out of the MDR but this shear looks like it may shred this completely to the point it can’t even regenerate.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
The circulation is still pretty elongated. You can see a lot of southerly winds and a lot of northerly winds but not many westerlies on visible. Conditions clearly aren't that favourable for Josephine, and I would be surprised if she got near the 50KT peak currently being forecast. But then again, it's August in the tropics so anything could happen.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
EquusStorm wrote:Whatever its classification as a wave or a tropical storm, it's certainly got pretty nice convective persistence on the north side; would prefer to not be under that in a small craft
Yeah I agree. It's in a gray area for sure.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
AveryTheComrade wrote:wxman57 wrote:I still can't pick out a circulation center. Here's a sat pic valid 21Z, same time as the NHC advisory. Jack's (Beven) position is marked (14.5N/50.6W). I don't see anything there when I run the loop back a bit. I still think it's likely an open wave that will hit a wall of shear in 24 hrs.
http://wxman57.com/images/Josephine4.JPG
I'm not sure what you're talking about, the circulation is fairly obviously here when looking at the loop
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649039647405637673/743587876545101865/unknown.png
That matches Beven's position, but I see another little swirl east of there, too. Very poorly-organized.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
GCANE wrote:Another high-helicity tower.
Seems to happen about this time every day.
That'll get all those little stray vorts lined up.
Sputtering convection. Pretty standard for a TS under high shear.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
The clock is ticking. Potential for surprises to the upside dwindling away.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
In the last hour the convection has increased with a tongue of moisture lifting closer to the suspect center.


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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
curtadams wrote:GCANE wrote:Another high-helicity tower.
Seems to happen about this time every day.
That'll get all those little stray vorts lined up.
Sputtering convection. Pretty standard for a TS under high shear.
Define sputtering
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
I'm loving the different views and conversation.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
cheezyWXguy wrote:cheezyWXguy wrote:Convection looks to be getting stripped away to the NW of the center, could be exposed again soon.
Aaand there it is. Pretty confident that’s the bottom half of the center now exposed on the south end of the main convection.
It's not.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
That tower south of the main convection is right over the center.. lets see if that expands. plenty of convergence towards the center ... just mid level shear is giving it hair cuts.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
That convection is popping right over the center... the area south of the main convection.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Hurricane Hunters are on-route to St. Croix.
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Our two crews of #ReserveCitizenAirman Hurricane Hunters have made like trees to go to St. Croix from which they are scheduled to fly fixes through #TSJosephine into the weekend.
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Our two crews of #ReserveCitizenAirman Hurricane Hunters have made like trees to go to St. Croix from which they are scheduled to fly fixes through #TSJosephine into the weekend.
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Re: ATL: JOSEPHINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
JaxGator wrote:Hurricane Hunters are on-route to St. Croix.
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Our two crews of #ReserveCitizenAirman Hurricane Hunters have made like trees to go to St. Croix from which they are scheduled to fly fixes through #TSJosephine into the weekend.
When is the first flight scheduled?
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