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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#401 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:02 pm

Hmmm....
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#402 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:04 pm

Much better pass from recon good well defined circ.

should see Hanna shortly.
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#403 Postby Horn1991 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:06 pm




Is that the hook Cowan was speaking of earlier?
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#404 Postby dantonlsu » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:07 pm



Definetely has the hook feature.

Interested to see the HWRF & associated models if they stay on that northern track.
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#405 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:07 pm

Horn1991 wrote:



Is that the hook Cowan was speaking of earlier?


it is a slightly newer one. but yes.
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#406 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:08 pm

The Atlantic is absolutely spamming out tropical storms this year. This will beat the record set by Harvey (2005) for earliest 8th named storm by
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#407 Postby plasticup » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:08 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Much better pass from recon good well defined circ.

should see Hanna shortly.


That would be 11 days ahead of the 2005 record for 8th earliest storm? People keep pointing out that 2005 had stronger storms but (with the exception of Emily) the strong storms were Aug/Sept/Oct as usual. The absurd pace of cyclogenesis this year is just mind boggling. Every little wisp of cloud stands a chance!
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#408 Postby Shell Mound » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:14 pm

The low-level inflow on visible satellite imagery is rather impressive for a strong depression or low-end tropical storm. The “feathery” cirrus outflow in the western semicircle indicates that the upper low to the southwest is imparting impressive divergence. Additionally, the pronounced band on the northeastern side of the system is often a precursor to rapid intensification, when combined with the formation of a small inner core beneath anticyclonic flow. The overall shape of the system, unfortunately, looks rather similar to that of Harvey ‘17 prior to its rapid pre-shore intensification. I definitely think that this has a better chance to become a hurricane than many people may think or acknowledge. The only negative factor is some northerly shear, but that is abating shortly and rapidly. “Hurricane Hanna”: another year, another “H”-bomb “gone to Texas”...

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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#409 Postby davidiowx » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:17 pm

dantonlsu wrote:


Definetely has the hook feature.

Interested to see the HWRF & associated models if they stay on that northern track.


12z HWRF looks like Rockport landfall, just a tad further south than the 06z
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#410 Postby Steve » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:19 pm

plasticup wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Much better pass from recon good well defined circ.

should see Hanna shortly.


That would be 11 days ahead of the 2005 record for 8th earliest storm? People keep pointing out that 2005 had stronger storms but (with the exception of Emily) the strong storms were Aug/Sept/Oct as usual. The absurd pace of cyclogenesis this year is just mind boggling. Every little wisp of cloud stands a chance!


Dennis was a major, and Cindy was a borderline 1.
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#411 Postby CyclonicFury » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:19 pm

Shell Mound wrote:The low-level inflow on visible satellite imagery is rather impressive for a strong depression or low-end tropical storm. The “feathery” cirrus outflow in the western semicircle indicates that the upper low to the southwest is imparting impressive divergence. Additionally, the pronounced band on the northeastern side of the system is often a precursor to rapid intensification, when combined with the formation of a small inner core beneath anticyclonic flow. The overall shape of the system, unfortunately, looks rather similar to that of Harvey ‘17 prior to its rapid pre-shore intensification. I definitely think that this has a better chance to become a hurricane than many people may think or acknowledge. The only negative factor is some northerly shear, but that is abating shortly and rapidly. “Hurricane Hanna”: another year, another “H”-bomb “gone to Texas”...

I wouldn't rule out a minimal Category 1 before landfall but I don't think this will get any stronger than that at most. Most likely I think it will be a strong TS.
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#412 Postby Shell Mound » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:21 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:
Shell Mound wrote:The low-level inflow on visible satellite imagery is rather impressive for a strong depression or low-end tropical storm. The “feathery” cirrus outflow in the western semicircle indicates that the upper low to the southwest is imparting impressive divergence. Additionally, the pronounced band on the northeastern side of the system is often a precursor to rapid intensification, when combined with the formation of a small inner core beneath anticyclonic flow. The overall shape of the system, unfortunately, looks rather similar to that of Harvey ‘17 prior to its rapid pre-shore intensification. I definitely think that this has a better chance to become a hurricane than many people may think or acknowledge. The only negative factor is some northerly shear, but that is abating shortly and rapidly. “Hurricane Hanna”: another year, another “H”-bomb “gone to Texas”...

I wouldn't rule out a minimal Category 1 before landfall but I don't think this will get any stronger than that at most. Most likely I think it will be a strong TS.

Personally, I think a moderate to strong Cat-1 is quite doable, given current trends, if a small inner core can establish itself in time. Analog: Humberto ‘07.
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#413 Postby SoupBone » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:23 pm

Shell Mound wrote:The low-level inflow on visible satellite imagery is rather impressive for a strong depression or low-end tropical storm. The “feathery” cirrus outflow in the western semicircle indicates that the upper low to the southwest is imparting impressive divergence. Additionally, the pronounced band on the northeastern side of the system is often a precursor to rapid intensification, when combined with the formation of a small inner core beneath anticyclonic flow. The overall shape of the system, unfortunately, looks rather similar to that of Harvey ‘17 prior to its rapid pre-shore intensification. I definitely think that this has a better chance to become a hurricane than many people may think or acknowledge. The only negative factor is some northerly shear, but that is abating shortly and rapidly. “Hurricane Hanna”: another year, another “H”-bomb “gone to Texas”...

https://twitter.com/iCyclone/status/1286349831678636032



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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#414 Postby Steve » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:28 pm

Shell Mound wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:
Shell Mound wrote:The low-level inflow on visible satellite imagery is rather impressive for a strong depression or low-end tropical storm. The “feathery” cirrus outflow in the western semicircle indicates that the upper low to the southwest is imparting impressive divergence. Additionally, the pronounced band on the northeastern side of the system is often a precursor to rapid intensification, when combined with the formation of a small inner core beneath anticyclonic flow. The overall shape of the system, unfortunately, looks rather similar to that of Harvey ‘17 prior to its rapid pre-shore intensification. I definitely think that this has a better chance to become a hurricane than many people may think or acknowledge. The only negative factor is some northerly shear, but that is abating shortly and rapidly. “Hurricane Hanna”: another year, another “H”-bomb “gone to Texas”...

I wouldn't rule out a minimal Category 1 before landfall but I don't think this will get any stronger than that at most. Most likely I think it will be a strong TS.

Personally, I think a moderate to strong Cat-1 is quite doable, given current trends, if a small inner core can establish itself in time. Analog: Humberto ‘07.


Hurricane models agree with you. You could see if it crawls the coast or moves WSW down the coast, maybe. If it had another day, I'd say it would be more likely. I think 55-60mph is probably the ceiling the way things look now.
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#415 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:31 pm

Anyone rulling out a Hurricane is likely going to eating their words.
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#416 Postby wx98 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:39 pm

If they go with Hanna it will be this evening or tonight:
1:00 PM CDT Thu Jul 23
Location: 26.0°N 90.3°W
Moving: WNW at 7 mph
Min pressure: 1008 mb
Max sustained: 35 mph
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#417 Postby Steve » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:41 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Anyone rulling out a Hurricane is likely going to eating their words.


I don't think anyone is ruling it out. I'm certainly not, but I don't think it's as likely - not yet anyway and not moderate to strong Cat 1 which is what he said. You and I were posting about it on Monday, and Thursday always seemed to be the day that the models agreed this would come together. I think it's on track for that. .
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#418 Postby GCANE » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:45 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Anyone rulling out a Hurricane is likely going to eating their words.


Heard crow tastes good when cooked on the BGE.
In fact everything tastes good from the BGE.

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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#419 Postby Steve » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:47 pm

Here comes the rain again, falling on my head like a memory...

https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.p ... 1&loop=yes
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Re: ATL: EIGHT - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#420 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:48 pm



Agree with Levi here. The convection may be impressive, but looking at the satellite loops, doesn’t look like the low-level center is aligned with the mid-level not to mention, the low is broad. This system will probably go down as “if it only had another 24-48 hours over water what would have been.”

For now looks like a rain event with some TS winds confined to a small area.
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