ATL: GONZALO - Remnants - Discussion

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#381 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:06 am

Looks like the data GFS is given is totally boogus.
GFS is showing open circulations 850mb and up with no anti-cyclone.
Satellites and CIMSS showing this perfectly stacked thru 500mb.
Looking at satellite and outflow, no doubt this has a perfect anti-cyclone over this.
WTF.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#382 Postby USTropics » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:00 am

First visible imagery this morning. As the circulation and convective symmetry increased last night, it adversely has begun to tug at some of the dry air to the north. This has become entrained this morning, and a dry slot has developed (median highlighted in red). That's putting a bit of a cap on things right now. The center has begun to fire up some new convection in the last few frames, but it will definitely need to wall off against the dry air entrainment and recover some.

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#383 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:27 am

The cycĺone has held up well overnight with convection sustaining around the low level circulation. Also, another thing IR and WV imagery are indicating to me is that the cyclone is beginning to separate itself from the ITCZ . I am not seeing that prominent tail it had yesterday from the ITCZ early this morning.

NHC is really being judicious with upgrading this cyclone. However, barring any sudden, unexpected degradations this morning, the reality is thst there is sufficient evidence there for finally upgrading this to TS Gonzalo later today.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#384 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:30 am

The feeder band is interacting with the dryline and currently firing a couple of cells.
Another cell is on top of the CoC

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#385 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:38 am

Looking good this morning.

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#386 Postby gfsperpendicular » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:43 am

The same little warm spot has shown up in all the recent IR frames especially the last three. I don't want to overreact (especially since I'm not even sure it's over the center of the storm) but it's interesting.

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#387 Postby SFLcane » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:48 am

This could attain hurricane status based on latest microwave shot. HWRF might not be so crazy after all lol
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#388 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:03 am

Not sure why Pasch is being stubborn here. SAB and ADT and TAFB all average to support 35 knots and it's really arbitrary, at least in my view, to demand a full consensus with just TS threshold and all else. Not to mention it's IR and microwave presentation.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#389 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:06 am

Yellow Evan wrote:Not sure why Pasch is being stubborn here. SAB and ADT and TAFB all average to support 35 knots and it's really arbitrary, at least in my view, to demand a full consensus with just TS threshold and all else. Not to mention it's IR and microwave presentation.

Pasch likes continuity.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#390 Postby Ubuntwo » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:07 am

supercane4867 wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:Not sure why Pasch is being stubborn here. SAB and ADT and TAFB all average to support 35 knots and it's really arbitrary, at least in my view, to demand a full consensus with just TS threshold and all else. Not to mention it's IR and microwave presentation.

Pasch likes continuity.

Yep, but with current dvorak trends 11AM* will surely pass that threshold. There's ASCAT to wait for soon as well.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#391 Postby SFLcane » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:09 am

Yellow Evan wrote:Not sure why Pasch is being stubborn here. SAB and ADT and TAFB all average to support 35 knots and it's really arbitrary, at least in my view, to demand a full consensus with just TS threshold and all else. Not to mention it's IR and microwave presentation.



Yeah they've been a little behind the curve on this one. Will be upgraded at 11am I am sure.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#392 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:10 am

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#393 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:18 am

Best looking TD in the Atlantic ever :lol:

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#394 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:20 am

NDG wrote:Best looking TD in the Atlantic ever :lol:

https://i.imgur.com/nSNBTj2.jpg


Yeppers. I would go with 60kts at the moment.

see if the eye actually becomes a little more distinct.

these small systems also give ASCAT a tough time.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#395 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:20 am

A long curved band on microwave yields DT3.0. I would go with at least 40kt for next advisory.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#396 Postby kevin » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:21 am

Yeah this needs to be upgraded ASAP. It's still classified as a 'TD', but tbh it looks more like a TS/hurricane than a TD/TS at this point.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#397 Postby tolakram » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:22 am

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#398 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:49 am

If the current trend holds, 06z HWRF @ 48hrs doesn't look too unrealistic.

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#399 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:52 am

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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#400 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:02 am

It sure appears the Surge in the flow/SAL to the north has ran far out ahead of our TS> almost looks like the TC is about to slow down a tad..

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