Low over the NW GOMEX (Is Invest 90L)

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Low over the NW GOMEX (Is Invest 90L)

#1 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:48 pm

Eastern GOM looks pretty disturbed this afternoon
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#2 Postby toad strangler » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:38 pm

Stormcenter wrote:Eastern GOM looks pretty disturbed this afternoon


A thread start with no satellite, radar, or map? :lol:
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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#3 Postby Nimbus » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:16 pm

Lots of marmalade skies this time of year over the Gulf of Mexico but I'm not seeing surface pressures below 30 inches at the buoys except as evening diurnal dips. Apparently there are some waves further east that may drift in later.
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#4 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:19 pm

toad strangler wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Eastern GOM looks pretty disturbed this afternoon


A thread start with no satellite, radar, or map? :lol:

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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#5 Postby floridasun78 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:28 pm

area person talking about gave south fl stormy Friday night and Saturday morning with alot lighting
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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#6 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:41 pm

My bad, thanks for adding satellite loop.
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#7 Postby AnnularCane » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:47 pm

Nimbus wrote:Lots of marmalade skies this time of year over the Gulf of Mexico but I'm not seeing surface pressures below 30 inches at the buoys except as evening diurnal dips. Apparently there are some waves further east that may drift in later.



"Marmalade skies"...never heard that term before. I like the way it sounds though. 8-)
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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#8 Postby Nimbus » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:50 pm

AnnularCane wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Lots of marmalade skies this time of year over the Gulf of Mexico but I'm not seeing surface pressures below 30 inches at the buoys except as evening diurnal dips. Apparently there are some waves further east that may drift in later.



"Marmalade skies"...never heard that term before. I like the way it sounds though. 8-)


Lumpy strawberry infrared band from the 60's..
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Re:Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#9 Postby Steve » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:52 pm

AnnularCane wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Lots of marmalade skies this time of year over the Gulf of Mexico but I'm not seeing surface pressures below 30 inches at the buoys except as evening diurnal dips. Apparently there are some waves further east that may drift in later.



"Marmalade skies"...never heard that term before. I like the way it sounds though. 8-)


That’s a joke, right?
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Re: Eastern GOM

#10 Postby Steve » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:53 pm

Nimbus wrote:
AnnularCane wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Lots of marmalade skies this time of year over the Gulf of Mexico but I'm not seeing surface pressures below 30 inches at the buoys except as evening diurnal dips. Apparently there are some waves further east that may drift in later.



"Marmalade skies"...never heard that term before. I like the way it sounds though. 8-)


Lumpy strawberry infrared band from the 60's..


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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#11 Postby Hurricane Jed » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:58 pm

Steve wrote:
AnnularCane wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Lots of marmalade skies this time of year over the Gulf of Mexico but I'm not seeing surface pressures below 30 inches at the buoys except as evening diurnal dips. Apparently there are some waves further east that may drift in later.



"Marmalade skies"...never heard that term before. I like the way it sounds though. 8-)


That’s a joke, right?


That’s hockey for the twee twee’s. There are some sayings and ism’s those haven’t heard
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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#12 Postby toad strangler » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:05 pm

AnnularCane wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Lots of marmalade skies this time of year over the Gulf of Mexico but I'm not seeing surface pressures below 30 inches at the buoys except as evening diurnal dips. Apparently there are some waves further east that may drift in later.



"Marmalade skies"...never heard that term before. I like the way it sounds though. 8-)


You obviously aren't a Beetles fan :lol:
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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#13 Postby AnnularCane » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:07 pm

The Beatles are fine, I just haven't listened to them much. :lol:
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#14 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:25 pm

This would explain why we had a stormy night last night in West Palm Beach, woke up several times to the sound of thunder!
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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#16 Postby Steve » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:54 pm

AnnularCane wrote:The Beatles are fine, I just haven't listened to them much. :lol:


It could have been Elton John too since it’s a reference to Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.
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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#17 Postby South Texas Storms » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:03 pm

Well this thread doesn't look like it's about the tropical wave in the eastern Gulf...

This wave has lower development chances than the one behind it. This wave just looks to help enhance rainfall across southeast TX and LA early next week.
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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#18 Postby Steve » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:40 am

South Texas Storms wrote:Well this thread doesn't look like it's about the tropical wave in the eastern Gulf...

This wave has lower development chances than the one behind it. This wave just looks to help enhance rainfall across southeast TX and LA early next week.


Yeah, we were just tripping on some marmalade skies. Haha. Anyway, I didn't think the second low was going to do anything either. But the next surge is aimed for the SC/SW LA Coast. I thought this might be the energy ICON was closing off near SWLA earlier in the week and then gradually shifted it a little south and west toward the TX Coast. General flow out of the SE is across the Gulf. What's weird about ICON's rainfall depictions is that it all stays almost offshore. I'm not buying into that completely. It currently closes off a weak low south of Houma on Wednesday night, moves it toward Galveston and then up toward Dallas. Looks pretty insignificant, but it could keep things cloudy and temperatures down across the central and western Gulf this week.

ICON Rainfall Depiction through next Sunday morning (180 hours)
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 900&fh=180

GFS through 180
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 900&fh=180

CMC through 180
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 900&fh=180

Here's HRRR IR Sim through 18 hours showing a lot of popup storms on the IR tomorrow.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 1904&fh=18
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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#19 Postby AJC3 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:44 am

South Texas Storms wrote:Well this thread doesn't look like it's about the tropical wave in the eastern Gulf...

This wave has lower development chances than the one behind it. This wave just looks to help enhance rainfall across southeast TX and LA early next week.


Minor quibble. This is more of a "pseudo" tropical wave, which is why, when I took the liberty of re-titling the thread, I used "inverted trough" instead of "tropical wave". In spite of offices adjacent to ours having called this feature a t-wave in their AFDs, it's really not. It's origin is a low level vort lobe that broke off an old frontal boundary over the western Atlantic a few days ago and then moved across south Florida Fri night into early Saturday morning. I realize some folks, even professional mets, like to play fast and loose with the terms "easterly wave" and "tropical wave", since In terms of sensibile weather effects, there's not a whole lot of difference (although true AEWs tend to be more robust). I reserve the term "topical wave" for true AEWs.

(As an aside, I'm also pretty particular about what I call a TUTT low or trough (which actually fractures off the mid Atlantic TUTT), versus a "TUTT-type" low/trough which pinches off the base of a northern stream trough, then gets trapped and sent westward underneath a building ridge to its west. But that's a discussion for another day).

Anyway, here's part of my AFD from 4 days ago...

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Melbourne FL
355 AM EDT Wed Jul 15 2020

.DISCUSSION...

<snip>

Thursday-Next Wednesday...

A series of weak inverted mid level vort lobes traverse westward
across Florida, coupled with subtle easterly ripples and their
associated pooled moisture. The most pronounced of these looks to be
Fri, when a lobe of Sfc-H85 vorticity fractures off a decaying front
over the western Atlantic and gets shunted SW-W beneath the ridge
and across FL.


Note: this feature actually crossed SOFL about 12-18 hours later than the 00Z WED model runs were indicating.
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Re: Inverted trough over the eastern GOMEX

#20 Postby USTropics » Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:53 am

AJC3 wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:Well this thread doesn't look like it's about the tropical wave in the eastern Gulf...

This wave has lower development chances than the one behind it. This wave just looks to help enhance rainfall across southeast TX and LA early next week.


Minor quibble. This is more of a "pseudo" tropical wave, which is why, when I took the liberty of re-titling the thread, I used "inverted trough" instead of "tropical wave". In spite of offices adjacent to ours having called this feature a t-wave in their AFDs, it's really not. It's origin is a low level vort lobe that broke off an old frontal boundary over the western Atlantic a few days ago and then moved across south Florida Fri night into early Saturday morning. I realize some folks, even professional mets, like to play fast and loose with the terms "easterly wave" and "tropical wave", since In terms of sensibile weather effects, there's not a whole lot of difference (although true AEWs tend to be more robust). I reserve the term "topical wave" for true AEWs.

(As an aside, I'm also pretty particular about what I call a TUTT low or trough (which actually fractures off the mid Atlantic TUTT), versus a "TUTT-type" low/trough which pinches off the base of a northern stream trough, then gets trapped and sent westward underneath a building ridge to its west. But that's a discussion for another day).

Anyway, here's part of my AFD from 4 days ago...

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Melbourne FL
355 AM EDT Wed Jul 15 2020

.DISCUSSION...

<snip>

Thursday-Next Wednesday...

A series of weak inverted mid level vort lobes traverse westward
across Florida, coupled with subtle easterly ripples and their
associated pooled moisture. The most pronounced of these looks to be
Fri, when a lobe of Sfc-H85 vorticity fractures off a decaying front
over the western Atlantic and gets shunted SW-W beneath the ridge
and across FL.


Note: this feature actually crossed SOFL about 12-18 hours later than the 00Z WED model runs were indicating.


I was just going to post about this actually. The recent passage of a tropical wave axis (pink) that is entering the BOC/EPAC has provided extra moisture for this inverted trough axis (blue):
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Here is a better representation of what is really going on:
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