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SW Caribbean Watch

#1 Postby BYG Jacob » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:42 pm

Looks like a developing system with a closed circ. Models suggested this would be moving into the NW Caribbean, which has the warmest waters and highest OHC
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#2 Postby BYG Jacob » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:44 pm

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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#3 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:30 pm

I think it is pretty obvious we have something pretty quickly coming together.

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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#4 Postby thundercam96 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:32 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:I think it is pretty obvious we have something pretty quickly coming together.

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It’s spinning up pretty nicely... surprised to see the models aren’t even showing the slightest indication with this.


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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#5 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:41 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:I think it is pretty obvious we have something pretty quickly coming together.

https://i.ibb.co/c14RLpD/index.gif


Proving the models wrong so far.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#6 Postby JetFuel_SE » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:45 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:I think it is pretty obvious we have something pretty quickly coming together.

https://i.ibb.co/c14RLpD/index.gif


Proving the models wrong so far.


There were actually some GEPS members that had a cyclone forming from a disturbance here, could be the thing they were hinting at.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#7 Postby JetFuel_SE » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:53 pm

JetFuel_SE wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:I think it is pretty obvious we have something pretty quickly coming together.

https://i.ibb.co/c14RLpD/index.gif


Proving the models wrong so far.


There were actually some GEPS members that had a cyclone forming from a disturbance here, could be the thing they were hinting at.


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Well would you look at that, there is still one little thing hitting Florida.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#8 Postby JetFuel_SE » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:32 pm

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I'm unsure about the reliability of SCATSAT, but here it is, looks better than a RapidSCAT pass over Colin:

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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#9 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:41 pm

JetFuel_SE wrote:https://i.gyazo.com/8aa706fd6ec70f48fd7edd0129ff8d74.png

I'm unsure about the reliability of SCATSAT, but here it is, looks better than a RapidSCAT pass over Colin:

https://manati.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/rscat_images/arch12_low/RS2016157/zooms/WMBas19.png


I mean ASCAT is showing very similar as well as surface obs.

Deep convection continues to build around the center..

we should get a mnetion from the NHC tonight.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#10 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:48 pm

This is one of those years where every disturbance tries to develop into a tropical cyclone. This probably won’t have enough water to develop on the Atlantic side, but still impressive.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#11 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:54 pm

MississippiWx wrote:This is one of those years where every disturbance tries to develop into a tropical cyclone. This probably won’t have enough water to develop on the Atlantic side, but still impressive.

Yeah models that were keen on development tried to spin it up just NW of Panama, allowing it to track further north giving it more time over water.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#12 Postby aspen » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:01 pm

SSTs are high in this region, and there’s plenty of moisture in the atmosphere. The only inhibiting factor I can see is the 25-30 kt of wind shear, which, according to the 24 hr tendency map, is not changing at all.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#13 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:12 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
MississippiWx wrote:This is one of those years where every disturbance tries to develop into a tropical cyclone. This probably won’t have enough water to develop on the Atlantic side, but still impressive.

Yeah models that were keen on development tried to spin it up just NW of Panama, allowing it to track further north giving it more time over water.


majority off all the runs of GFS and ensembles showed it lifting NNW. the SW shear will keep it lopsided which would keep from going inland or crossover. possibly move across the eastern portion of Honduras.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#14 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:14 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
MississippiWx wrote:This is one of those years where every disturbance tries to develop into a tropical cyclone. This probably won’t have enough water to develop on the Atlantic side, but still impressive.

Yeah models that were keen on development tried to spin it up just NW of Panama, allowing it to track further north giving it more time over water.


majority off all the runs of GFS and ensembles showed it lifting NNW. the SW shear will keep it lopsided which would keep from going inland or crossover. possibly move across the eastern portion of Honduras.


Tropicaltidbts doesn't have the ICON 850mb vort graphics but the 500mb graphic shows this lifting north:
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#15 Postby SFLcane » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:31 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
MississippiWx wrote:This is one of those years where every disturbance tries to develop into a tropical cyclone. This probably won’t have enough water to develop on the Atlantic side, but still impressive.

Yeah models that were keen on development tried to spin it up just NW of Panama, allowing it to track further north giving it more time over water.


majority off all the runs of GFS and ensembles showed it lifting NNW. the SW shear will keep it lopsided which would keep from going inland or crossover. possibly move across the eastern portion of Honduras.


Maybe a week ago... Euro brings this inland tonight.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#16 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:33 pm

SFLcane wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Yeah models that were keen on development tried to spin it up just NW of Panama, allowing it to track further north giving it more time over water.


majority off all the runs of GFS and ensembles showed it lifting NNW. the SW shear will keep it lopsided which would keep from going inland or crossover. possibly move across the eastern portion of Honduras.


Maybe a week ago... Euro brings this inland tonight.


yeah as a shallow far weaker trough.. this would be steered mid level flow in it's present orginizartion. also as I mentioned it will be lopsided from the SW shear.

we all no how that plays out 99 percent of the time.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#17 Postby toad strangler » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:34 pm

SFLcane wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Yeah models that were keen on development tried to spin it up just NW of Panama, allowing it to track further north giving it more time over water.


majority off all the runs of GFS and ensembles showed it lifting NNW. the SW shear will keep it lopsided which would keep from going inland or crossover. possibly move across the eastern portion of Honduras.


Maybe a week ago... Euro brings this inland tonight.



yeah ... the Euro makes quick work of this. SO does the GFS
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#18 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:43 pm

toad strangler wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
majority off all the runs of GFS and ensembles showed it lifting NNW. the SW shear will keep it lopsided which would keep from going inland or crossover. possibly move across the eastern portion of Honduras.


Maybe a week ago... Euro brings this inland tonight.



yeah ... the Euro makes quick work of this. SO does the GFS


Not sure if its the same disturbance but the 18z GFS has it over water compared to previous runs.
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Not much to see @ 850mb.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#19 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:48 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Yeah models that were keen on development tried to spin it up just NW of Panama, allowing it to track further north giving it more time over water.


majority off all the runs of GFS and ensembles showed it lifting NNW. the SW shear will keep it lopsided which would keep from going inland or crossover. possibly move across the eastern portion of Honduras.


Tropicaltidbts doesn't have the ICON 850mb vort graphics but the 500mb graphic shows this lifting north:
https://i.imgur.com/jtBuGSF.png


yeah, it would almost certainly move north or nnw with the mid level flow

and clearly the models are not initializing the surface and low levels correctly. since we have surface and ASCAT data indicating much more going on than the models are showing.
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Re: SW Caribbean Watch

#20 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:09 pm

Looks like it'll move inland into CA by tomorrow. Close to zero chance of development. Very high shear there, too. Might get something in the East Pac over the next week or two, but the Atlantic looks quiet.
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