2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#341 Postby TampaBull » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:44 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:Figure of speech Lol, not really a track but the direction that a storm could go if it develops

Got to understand that the models are always doing their best to predict the atmosphere, especially so far out. Anything from a change of speed of a trough to unseen upper level shear could change what models are predicting almost 10 days out. In most cases, models predicting a storm 10 days out aren’t saying a storm will happen but saying the climate will be there to develop a storm.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#342 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:42 am

00Z GFS 6/8/20
Looking at possible development east of Nicarauga
Possible track across Cuba into FL Straits

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#343 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:48 am

Maybe genesis from a PV Streamer

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#344 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:51 am

Classic PV Streamer development along a shear axis.
Cristobal also spun up from a PV Steamer which interacted with the CAG.
In this case, not too sure where the LL vort is coming from.
Maybe a tropical wave.
This season may be dictated by UL conditions which has its basis in Rossby waves and particularly Anticyclonic Wave Breaking (AWB).
If so, we could see a predictiable periodicity in TC genesis and development.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#345 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:02 am

Much stronger development in the west Carib on the 06Z run.
GOM may come into play.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#346 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:09 am

:uarrow: Remains weak. It's likely we'll see a disturbance or two emerge from the WCaribb. That's a stark difference from prior years as its been a graveyard for TC's for most of the past decade.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#347 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:10 am

Tons of moisture from the boundry layer to mid-level troposphere.
Looks like this may be driven by LL convergence from a tropical wave as it hits CA.


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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#348 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:21 am

Not sure if this is our Rossby wave currently located east of Japan.
Massive AWB assoicated with it though.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#349 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:37 am

Not much to see here yet... GEFS and Euro ensembles remain quite.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#350 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:44 am

Five ensemble members clustered in the W Carib, 162 hrs out.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#351 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:06 am

GCANE wrote:Five ensemble members clustered in the W Carib, 162 hrs out.

https://i.imgur.com/WqYshcF.png



That's a pretty weak signal still. We'll see if it picks up
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#352 Postby Steve H. » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:43 am

Itcz starting to get juiced already. Even West coast of Africa looking moist. Too early and out of phase. We'll see if it's still that way in August.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#353 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:15 am

Morning everyone

Steve I notice the train a waves in the MDR early in the season to see so many. We better hope they don't keep running in August like that.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#354 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:25 am

12Z GFS
Deepening Surface low on the tip of the Nic / Hon border

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#355 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:34 am

Very clear genesis as the LL Vort spins up from the Anticyclonic Wave Break due to the Rossby wave / UL Trough.
Looks to take out the PV Streamer as it moves into the upper west Carib.
Very consistent and strengthening model runs.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#356 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:41 am

Another one in the MDR.
AEW interacting with AWB.
Probably won't make it across though.
A little too far away from the associated PV Streamer to fire up and take it out.
This is going to be the year of Rossby Wave watching.
Feels like a very active season.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#357 Postby cainjamin » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:51 am

Looks to be the wave near the Lesser Antilles that spurs the Caribbean development in about 150-164 hrs on the GFS. Fits pretty well with climo for this time of year and that wave is already looking pretty healthy.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#358 Postby StruThiO » Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:00 pm

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#359 Postby floridasun78 » Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:01 pm

so gfs want be active models of season it told us about Cristobal now want show some thing in sw carribbean
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#360 Postby BYG Jacob » Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:05 pm

Kingarabian wrote::uarrow: Remains weak. It's likely we'll see a disturbance or two emerge from the WCaribb. That's a stark difference from prior years as its been a graveyard for TC's for most of the past decade.

Given the OHC in the WCAB, that is concerning
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