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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1501 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:17 pm

12z Super Ensemble is up to 33% for winter wx at DFW b/w the 20 - 22nd.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1502 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:37 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:Looks like we are nearing the pattern flip that everyone has been waiting on. The eastern 2/3 of the US will be under a good winter pattern finally come next week and it appears to have staying power. The southern jet looks to become dominant. After this weekend the GFS nor GEFS has any 50s, though no signs of cold either. Both also show near constant precip chances. With this pattern any decent shortwave could produce snow. We won't have to spend 10 days waiting on one potential storm that may or may not pan out.


That is correct. The current strengthening MJO pulse is finally working its mojo!

The pattern set-up indeed could be a potential bonanza for folks across the Southern Plains/ Southeast U S. with cold air potential dropping south and potential active southern stream jet in the next.10-14 days. Things just may finally get cranking for many who want cold and wintry precip potential soon!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1503 Postby Cerlin » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:09 pm

All signs are pointing towards potential fun towards the end of this month and into next. That Canadian wall will fall!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1504 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:10 pm

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Ralph's Weather wrote:Looks like we are nearing the pattern flip that everyone has been waiting on. The eastern 2/3 of the US will be under a good winter pattern finally come next week and it appears to have staying power. The southern jet looks to become dominant. After this weekend the GFS nor GEFS has any 50s, though no signs of cold either. Both also show near constant precip chances. With this pattern any decent shortwave could produce snow. We won't have to spend 10 days waiting on one potential storm that may or may not pan out.


That is correct. The current strengthening MJO pulse is finally working its mojo!

The pattern set-up indeed could be a potential bonanza for folks across the Southern Plains/ Southeast U S. with cold air potential dropping south and potential active southern stream jet in the next.10-14 days. Things just may finally get cranking for many who want cold and wintry precip potential soon!

We are gonna have some wild op runs, but I do fully expect to get some snow out of this setup. Multiple weeks of below average temps consecutively with abundant moisture in the heart of wither.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1505 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:29 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:Looks like we are nearing the pattern flip that everyone has been waiting on. The eastern 2/3 of the US will be under a good winter pattern finally come next week and it appears to have staying power. The southern jet looks to become dominant. After this weekend the GFS nor GEFS has any 50s, though no signs of cold either. Both also show near constant precip chances. With this pattern any decent shortwave could produce snow. We won't have to spend 10 days waiting on one potential storm that may or may not pan out.


That is correct. The current strengthening MJO pulse is finally working its mojo!

The pattern set-up indeed could be a potential bonanza for folks across the Southern Plains/ Southeast U S. with cold air potential dropping south and potential active southern stream jet in the next.10-14 days. Things just may finally get cranking for many who want cold and wintry precip potential soon!

We are gonna have some wild op runs, but I do fully expect to get some snow out of this setup. Multiple weeks of below average temps consecutively with abundant moisture in the heart of wither.


Yes, I agree.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1506 Postby BigB0882 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:26 pm

Doesn’t seem, at this point, that the cold will be strong enough to put the coastal regions in the mix for potential fun. Hopefully we can keep this pattern and get an even stronger push of cold in the coming weeks.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1507 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:49 pm

BigB0882 wrote:Doesn’t seem, at this point, that the cold will be strong enough to put the coastal regions in the mix for potential fun. Hopefully we can keep this pattern and get an even stronger push of cold in the coming weeks.


Yeah, I don’t really see any Artic outbreaks coming. Looks like that is staying bottled up north and not really coming this direction. Just looks like a wet pattern with your average winter cold fronts.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1508 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:31 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
BigB0882 wrote:Doesn’t seem, at this point, that the cold will be strong enough to put the coastal regions in the mix for potential fun. Hopefully we can keep this pattern and get an even stronger push of cold in the coming weeks.


Yeah, I don’t really see any Artic outbreaks coming. Looks like that is staying bottled up north and not really coming this direction. Just looks like a wet pattern with your average winter cold fronts.


You are not going to see a big arctic outbreak right now initially. The pattern change is still ongoing and evolving. We will see a initial cool down next week, but the coldest air or anomalies will not take place until we get near the end of this month or into the first week of February in all likelihood. It will be a gradual top down to bottom process before the coldest air arrives.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1509 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:36 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
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BigB0882 wrote:Doesn’t seem, at this point, that the cold will be strong enough to put the coastal regions in the mix for potential fun. Hopefully we can keep this pattern and get an even stronger push of cold in the coming weeks.


Yeah, I don’t really see any Artic outbreaks coming. Looks like that is staying bottled up north and not really coming this direction. Just looks like a wet pattern with your average winter cold fronts.


You are not going to see a big arctic outbreak right now initially. The pattern change is still ongoing and evolving. We will see a initial cool down next week, but the coldest air or anomalies will not take place until we get near the end of this month or into the first week of February in all likelihood. It will be a gradual top to bottom ptocess before the coldest air arrives.


Why’s the cold staying bottled up north? What needs to happen for it to start heading south?
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1510 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:42 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Yeah, I don’t really see any Artic outbreaks coming. Looks like that is staying bottled up north and not really coming this direction. Just looks like a wet pattern with your average winter cold fronts.


You are not going to see a big arctic outbreak right now initially. The pattern change is still ongoing and evolving. We will see a initial cool down next week, but the coldest air or anomalies will not take place until we get near the end of this month or into the first week of February in all likelihood. It will be a gradual top to bottom ptocess before the coldest air arrives.


Why’s the cold staying bottled up north? What needs to happen for it to start heading south?


We need the NAO to go negative a bit more. We need a forcing mechanism, like the Greenland Blocking pattern, to set-up and dislodge at least a significant chunk of that arctic air southward over the North America continent into the Eastern CONUS. Usually, when the NAO tanks, the Greenland Block usually sets'up during the winter. So, we await to see if that will occur over the next couple of weeks.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1511 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:28 pm

We have been expecting a flip for a while now, and it has yet to happen. I am confident that eventually it will though. A bit of a block will be popping up over the arctic in 4 days time, this could help create some chaos and step things down. Id really like to see the MJO be favorable.

Of course, this is all after my trip to Colorado during the last week of January. 5th year in a row now and we have seen a combine 5" of snow on our trips. We're there for a week each time!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1512 Postby Texas Snow » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:22 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:Looks like we are nearing the pattern flip that everyone has been waiting on. The eastern 2/3 of the US will be under a good winter pattern finally come next week and it appears to have staying power. The southern jet looks to become dominant. After this weekend the GFS nor GEFS has any 50s, though no signs of cold either. Both also show near constant precip chances. With this pattern any decent shortwave could produce snow. We won't have to spend 10 days waiting on one potential storm that may or may not pan out.


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We are gonna have some wild op runs, but I do fully expect to get some snow out of this setup. Multiple weeks of below average temps consecutively with abundant moisture in the heart of wither.


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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1513 Postby orangeblood » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:36 pm

And here come the Operationals...The HP is much stronger this run, numerous ENS members have been showing this lately - good sign for early next week!

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1514 Postby Texas Snow » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:37 pm

The trend is our friend.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1515 Postby Brent » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:42 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1516 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:16 am

Snow palooza on the GFS run. :lol:. Pattern has real potential. Major WWB in the Pacific will bring upon the STJ amidst the cold air.

Reminds us Feb 2015 did happen once upon a distant memory...

Sometimes you just got to get the ignition going. Perhaps last Saturday was it, teaser.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1517 Postby harp » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:18 am

I'm liking the tend of the operational GFS finally. Don't forget south Louisiana!! Come by for some boiled crawfish and gumbo!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1518 Postby Cerlin » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:26 am

7 inches of snow sounds nice to me. Still too far out to get excited about specifics but it seems like the operational are latching onto the signals the ensembles have been showing.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1519 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:28 am

Latest Euro Weeklies looks good.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1520 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:48 am

As my post earlier stated we will see wild runs of the models and the GFS does it on the next run haha. The pattern is ripe. This time of year you don't need or even want Arctic for snow. A dominant STJ tracking directly across Texas is perfect in mid winter. I have meetings in Houston early next week in Houston so I am paying close attention so I can give notice about rescheduling if needed.
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