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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#921 Postby Portastorm » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:37 pm

I sense a massive winter storm for Texas later this month ... just the kind that includes a wintry mix for Houston, making Wxman57 miserable! I'm getting Champ the Charger ready to go. Loading up on the Grey Goose. Let's do this! :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#922 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:07 pm

The Euro isn’t enthused.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#923 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:10 pm

Cpv17 wrote:The Euro isn’t enthused.


The Euro hasn't really had a great track record with cold or precip thus far. 0Z and 12z runs were wildly different in the longer term as well. Just my .02
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#924 Postby lsuhurricane » Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:12 pm

Euro Ensembles appear much colder than the Operational. Control brings the air south without an eastern bias as well.

At least it's something to look at compared to the Zonal/Pacific front doldrums.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#925 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:55 pm

18z still dumps Arctic air right into the Gulf... centered on the 16th-17th.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#926 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:58 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:18z still dumps Arctic air right into the Gulf... centered on the 16th-17th.


Well, I don't know about that. 18Z GFS temps are one morning to near 30 in Houston following the front. Air isn't that cold in the 18Z GFS run. Nothing like the low of 17 and high of 26 on the 00Z run. It does bring some colder air down around days 15-16.

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#927 Postby Brent » Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:43 pm

Not a ton of snow here in Lake Tahoe and it was actually a sunny day well into the 40s so mostly a lot of dirty piles but as soon as I got my rental car I went driving into the mountains. Supposed to have an inch or two before I leave Friday morning. Lot of icy spots walking around saw several people fall

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#928 Postby gboudx » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:30 pm

Brent, I can confirm that you have more snow in those pics, than there is currently in Rockwall and Wylie.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#929 Postby Brent » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:47 pm

gboudx wrote:Brent, I can confirm that you have more snow in those pics, than there is currently in Rockwall and Wylie.


:roflmao: Yeah I was lamenting to the guy at the rental car place about how it doesn't snow in Dallas and he looks around and goes "yeah we need more" :lol:

the news here is saying snow pack is normal in the mountains but he's not the only one to mention the lack of snow today
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#930 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:54 pm

Before we get too into the what the GFS is depicting (tldr snow into the gulf of mexico) the 18z GFS ensemble mean keeps the cold air bottled up north of Oklahoma. Until the Euro goes all in I'm hesitant but I'm pretty sure the GFS sniffed out the record cold November front over 10 days out. It would be nice to get some more hard freezes before winter is over but we've already surpassed last winter's low by over 5 degrees. Too bad it was November 13th!

Side note I have to disagree with Wxman57's comment on mosquitos a while back. We always have tons of them during warm months that went well into fall but they absolutely vanished after mid November, at least in my backyard where it counts. My 2 year old is extremely sensitive to bites (like his Mom but they dont phase me I just get a red dot where they bite.) Unfortunately they have returned just since Christmas week :grrr: .

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#931 Postby TheProfessor » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:26 pm

Top Analog for this late week system on CIPS is the Super Tuesday Outbreak :eek:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#932 Postby MississippiWx » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:33 pm

TheProfessor wrote:Top Analog for this late week system on CIPS is the Super Tuesday Outbreak :eek:


Anytime we get this Southeast Ridge battling against cold air from the Northwest, expect trouble on the Southeast side of the approaching trough. The dynamics of this system are concerning.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#933 Postby harp » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:55 pm

The GFS has trended less and less cold air each of the last several runs. As a result, the frozen precip is now gone. It was about the only eye candy we have had this year and was fun while it lasted!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#934 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:29 am

harp wrote:The GFS has trended less and less cold air each of the last several runs. As a result, the frozen precip is now gone. It was about the only eye candy we have had this year and was fun while it lasted!


I was literally about to say the same thing lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#935 Postby Brent » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:52 am

harp wrote:The GFS has trended less and less cold air each of the last several runs. As a result, the frozen precip is now gone. It was about the only eye candy we have had this year and was fun while it lasted!


How shocking... Not :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#936 Postby TropicalTundra » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:06 am

GFS now showing an apparent ice storm with temperatures above freezing in parts of south Texas. But at least there is basically above 95% humidity in most of Texas :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#937 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:47 am

PTrackerLA wrote:Side note I have to disagree with Wxman57's comment on mosquitos a while back. We always have tons of them during warm months that went well into fall but they absolutely vanished after mid November, at least in my backyard where it counts. My 2 year old is extremely sensitive to bites (like his Mom but they dont phase me I just get a red dot where they bite.) Unfortunately they have returned just since Christmas week :grrr: .


You misunderstood. I said the cold doesn't kill all the mosquitoes. They go dormant in cooler weather but return when it warms up, which is what you're describing above.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#938 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:05 am

It won't take much more shifting to put DFW under the gun on Friday.

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#939 Postby MississippiWx » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:13 am

bubba hotep wrote:It won't take much more shifting to put DFW under the gun on Friday.

https://i.ibb.co/wz5hGRt/IMG-20200107-080357.jpg


Models are trending slower with the ejection of the trough. This allows for places farther west to destabilize further before the main system moves through. Slower helps you guys get some moisture moving in for more rain potential, but it also increases the severe threat.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#940 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:14 am

The latest Euro Weeklies show more of the same through late February... Really strong -PNA events can have some staying power and the analog lags don't look encouraging either. We really need something big to shake up this pattern or we may not see the benefits from an improving Pacific until it's too late for Texas.
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