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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#201 Postby Cerlin » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:54 pm

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Brent wrote:18z GFS is a no go again and it's not even close

Idk, it just looks like it’s been pushed back to me. Still wintry weather but it’s on the 17th instead.


Lol isn't it always pushed back though

Always :lol: :lol:

That being said, it looks to me like the GFS is trending closer and closer to Tuesday night being potentially interesting as well. Looks like a thin snow line develops in east Texas around then...the results of the anticipated pattern sure are varying run to run but as harp said I like the pattern and there’s multiple chances for this to line up (even though it never actually does)
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#202 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:30 pm

I only counted 5(out of 20) 18z GFS ensembles with snow for DFW through day 10 and 3 of them are for Tuesday Night...
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#203 Postby Cerlin » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:07 pm

Brent wrote:I only counted 5(out of 20) 18z GFS ensembles with snow for DFW through day 10 and 3 of them are for Tuesday Night...

Yeah that’s not very good, let’s just hope it was an off run
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#204 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:48 pm

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Brent wrote:I only counted 5(out of 20) 18z GFS ensembles with snow for DFW through day 10 and 3 of them are for Tuesday Night...

Yeah that’s not very good, let’s just hope it was an off run


Everytime I've looked it's been no more than 7 or 8 hasn't ever been great to me
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#205 Postby bubba hotep » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:33 pm

Most encouraging run of the Euro Weeklies in a while.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#206 Postby Cerlin » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:42 pm

Hey this isn’t near as disappointing as the Cowboy’s are right now... :roll: :cry:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#207 Postby hamburgerman7070 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:42 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Most encouraging run of the Euro Weeklies in a while.


Bubba. Do you know much about a standing wave in the indian ocean? I read about it today that it needs to weaken. Also, the IOD has been positive and i thought that promotes mjo in 8-2 phases. Mjo is still not moving much.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#208 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:57 pm

Cerlin wrote:Hey this isn’t near as disappointing as the Cowboy’s are right now... :roll: :cry:


Yeah, what in the world? :lol:

bubba hotep wrote:Most encouraging run of the Euro Weeklies in a while.


how far out is the encouragement? :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#209 Postby hamburgerman7070 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:30 pm

We have a ways to go ladies and gentlemen. Pattern isn't conducive for winter events yet. Ao and nao are positive, which isn't good. Another thing is if the euro is not showing cold or a winter storm, we must definitely be cautious looking at other things. Euro has a great track record so keep that in mind.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#210 Postby gpsnowman » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:49 am

I despise 70's in winter. A couple more in the forecast before next week's cool down then a stretch of 30's-50's for several days. I can live with that but I would like to see some rain. The cold will come at some point.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#211 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:18 am

Definitely worth watching early to mid next week. Shortwave in the southwest if stronger or ejects differently may pose some possible non-zero chance for wintry precip (northern tier of the state). Still wiggle room ahead but best to keep expectations low, however it's not a terrible set up for surprises.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#212 Postby Ralph's Weather » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:07 am

Ntxw wrote:Definitely worth watching early to mid next week. Shortwave in the southwest if stronger or ejects differently may pose some possible non-zero chance for wintry precip (northern tier of the state). Still wiggle room ahead but best to keep expectations low, however it's not a terrible set up for surprises.

Just seems to be too much +PNA which has killed us the past few years.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#213 Postby CaptinCrunch » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:55 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Definitely worth watching early to mid next week. Shortwave in the southwest if stronger or ejects differently may pose some possible non-zero chance for wintry precip (northern tier of the state). Still wiggle room ahead but best to keep expectations low, however it's not a terrible set up for surprises.

Just seems to be too much +PNA which has killed us the past few years.


looking at the PNA, AO, and NAO forecast the PNA and AO are both on track to plung after the 16th of December with the some PNA charts showing the type of drop it had in November. The NAO also shows a decline but not as pronounced as the PNA and AO. We could see the back half of December heading into the holidays to be on the cold side of the force. :ggreen:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#214 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:57 am

CaptinCrunch wrote:
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Ntxw wrote:Definitely worth watching early to mid next week. Shortwave in the southwest if stronger or ejects differently may pose some possible non-zero chance for wintry precip (northern tier of the state). Still wiggle room ahead but best to keep expectations low, however it's not a terrible set up for surprises.

Just seems to be too much +PNA which has killed us the past few years.


looking at the PNA, AO, and NAO forecast the PNA and AO are both on track to plung after the 16th of December with the some PNA charts showing the type of drop it had in November. The NAO also shows a decline but not as pronounced as the PNA and AO. We could see the back half of December heading into the holidays to be on the cold side of the force. :ggreen:


I’ll believe it when I see it lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#215 Postby harp » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:02 pm

Check out the 12Z GFS.....major cold with some precip....
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#216 Postby Cerlin » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:18 pm

harp wrote:Check out the 12Z GFS.....major cold with some precip....

Yes except it’s a week later...very exciting model watching except it keeps getting delayed. I’m not gonna buy into it until it’s 5 or less days out.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#217 Postby Brent » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:44 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:Just seems to be too much +PNA which has killed us the past few years.


looking at the PNA, AO, and NAO forecast the PNA and AO are both on track to plung after the 16th of December with the some PNA charts showing the type of drop it had in November. The NAO also shows a decline but not as pronounced as the PNA and AO. We could see the back half of December heading into the holidays to be on the cold side of the force. :ggreen:


I’ll believe it when I see it lol


Lol you sound like me

Is the great pattern ever gonna get closer in time??
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#218 Postby Ralph's Weather » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:45 pm

Looks like we have a pretty consistent -EPO so the cold will be there just need to PNA to not shoot positive with every storm. That may happen after next week, but I want to see it in the sub 5 day range before I bite on it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#219 Postby funster » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:00 pm

There seem to way more acorns than usual this year in North Dallas. Some trees have tons more. A "mast year" according to botanists. Maybe the trees know something.
https://www.cjr.org/language_corner/mast-bumper-crop-acorn.php
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#220 Postby Brent » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:19 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:Looks like we have a pretty consistent -EPO so the cold will be there just need to PNA to not shoot positive with every storm. That may happen after next week, but I want to see it in the sub 5 day range before I bite on it.


The stupid +PNA keeps killing us it's annoying
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