2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1141 Postby chaser1 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:44 pm

Hmmm, down to 957 mb in the SW Caribbean at 258 hours. Stronger then the 18Z run but consistent with it. We'll have to wait and see if the GFS can tie together a few more model runs that move closer in time. Also this clearly puts genesis within the EURO time-frame if it were to equally become increasingly bullish with development.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1142 Postby chaser1 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:56 pm

Ruh Roh. Not a good set up. Diving short wave in the Central Plains, 940's hurricane drifting north in the W. Caribbean, & some place potentially get plowed. Cuba? Yucatan? Florida Jamaica? Way to far out to be a given but slowly getting close enough to becoming a possibility.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1143 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:58 pm

The 0zGFS is real imposing for Cuba it looks like, looks like anyone from Nicaragua to The Bahamas and anyone in between including the eastern GOM need to keep an eye on this

Edit: the 0zGFS shows a cat 4/5 landfall in Cuba and possibly another major for the Bahamas but this is so far out in the model it will likely change
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1144 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:10 am

Hurricaneman wrote:The 0zGFS is real imposing for Cuba it looks like, looks like anyone from Nicaragua to The Bahamas and anyone in between including the eastern GOM need to keep an eye on this

Edit: the 0zGFS shows a cat 4/5 landfall in Cuba and possibly another major for the Bahamas but this is so far out in the model it will likely change

Yeah a 300+ hour track is not going to verify, but if other models start to latch on to this, then that is an area of concern.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1145 Postby otowntiger » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:21 am

Judging by the silence in this thread since late last night I’m guessing models must’ve gone back to showing nothing or at least the Euro must still not be picking up up on anything. :D
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1146 Postby SFLcane » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:02 am

Now at 140-150 hrs but buries it into Central America. Let’s see if shows up on the EC/EPS.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1147 Postby gatorcane » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:03 am

06Z GFS again develops but pushes it over CA and the remnants get pulled NE due to a very strong cold front:

The key thing here is that timeframe for genesis starting in the SW Carib is up to 168 hours now

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1148 Postby SFLcane » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:20 am

Burying into Central America can happen with these sometimes.

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1149 Postby SFLcane » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:32 am

Ecmwf is still virtually nothing.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1150 Postby SFLcane » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:22 am

GEFS mostly into Central America.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1151 Postby toad strangler » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:21 am

SFLcane wrote:GEFS mostly into Central America.


6z GEFS mostly into CA but many members do not get buried and do get pulled NE.
0z Euro does not show much of anything so that is a big negative for the GFS once again. BUT ... the GFS is moving this forward so we track.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1152 Postby AnnularCane » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:35 am

I'm kind of hoping that anything that does form down there will bring a nice soaking rain up here.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1153 Postby SFLcane » Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:41 am

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1154 Postby SFLcane » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:26 am

Ridge to the north = West into Nicaragua.

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1155 Postby gatorcane » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:30 am

:uarrow: Yep and if you look at the last two runs of the GFS, that ridge has trended stronger. Euro and CMC have a strong ridge too at least the 00Z runs had it.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1156 Postby SFLcane » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:30 am

Could be an Otto 2016.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1157 Postby toad strangler » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:54 am

If a storm forms (no matter where it goes) it's a huge kick in the butt to the Euro.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1158 Postby gatorcane » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:54 am

12Z GEM joining the GFS with development but sends it NW into the NW Carib:

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Trough-ridge setup at 234 hours:

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1159 Postby toad strangler » Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:03 pm

gatorcane wrote:12Z GEM joining the GFS with development but sends it NW into the NW Carib:

https://i.postimg.cc/QdrvtBwB/gem-mslp-pcpn-watl-36.png

Trough-ridge setup at 234 hours:




CMC is showing a similar ridge to the GFS and Euro. I don't buy 500mb setups this far out. The story is that a storm in the SW Caribbean seems more and more likely. The Euro being left in the dust.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1160 Postby N2FSU » Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:06 pm

GFS May be showing a strong ridge at 7+ days, but I will still lean towards climatology and say if something forms there, it’s moving generally NW/N/NE and a potential Florida threat.
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