ATL: IMELDA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#181 Postby SoupBone » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:19 pm

Wind is picking up in H-Town, not too bad, but you can definitely tell this is tropical (I'm sure you all know what I mean).
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#182 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:21 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
wxman22 wrote:It's now casting time but the latest 12z Euro is very concerning.

https://i.ibb.co/XxWKPVp/us-model-en-087-0-modez-2019091712-61-490-220.png


Looks like TS Allison in 2001.

HUSH your mouth! No A words please! :eek: Unfortunately as I have been watching Imelda develop over the last few days that was my thought also. I have not looked at steering currents. That will be the biggest determinate imo of whether we get what one would normally expect from a low end TS that is moving vs one that is wandering around or stalled. Some of the model outputs for rain are scary!
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#183 Postby StormLogic » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:23 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
wxman22 wrote:It's now casting time but the latest 12z Euro is very concerning.

https://i.ibb.co/XxWKPVp/us-model-en-087-0-modez-2019091712-61-490-220.png


Looks like TS Allison in 2001.

HUSH your mouth! No A words please! :eek: Unfortunately as I have been watching Imelda develop over the last few days that was my thought also. I have not looked at steering currents. That will be the biggest determinate imo of whether we get what one would normally expect from a low end TS that is moving vs one that is wandering around or stalled. Some of the model outputs for rain are scary!


some models have shown stalling scenarios since yesterday
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#184 Postby SoupBone » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:26 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
wxman22 wrote:It's now casting time but the latest 12z Euro is very concerning.

https://i.ibb.co/XxWKPVp/us-model-en-087-0-modez-2019091712-61-490-220.png


Looks like TS Allison in 2001.

HUSH your mouth! No A words please! :eek: Unfortunately as I have been watching Imelda develop over the last few days that was my thought also. I have not looked at steering currents. That will be the biggest determinate imo of whether we get what one would normally expect from a low end TS that is moving vs one that is wandering around or stalled. Some of the model outputs for rain are scary!


By noon tomorrow it's supposed to be north of Conroe, so we'll see.
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#185 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:30 pm

This is where the Mets get paid the big bucks
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#186 Postby Steve » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:41 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
SoupBone wrote:If the GFS verifies, Houston will be threading a thin, thin needle.

https://i.imgur.com/wXresTG.png


Fortunately, the area between Houston and Beaumont is sparsely populated.


It’s changing though. Yeah you have the rivers and watersheds (Lost, Trinity, etc.), but that area is rapidly filling up. Where there used to be endless pastures, there are now more and more subdivisions. Obviously it’s sparser than Houston, but it’s all gonna be filled in 10-15 years.
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#187 Postby SoupBone » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:42 pm

As we're nowcasting, I see some dry air slot forming between its core and the banding that Beaumont is getting hit. It's noticeable in the last several visible frames.

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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#188 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:42 pm

Well then. That happened.
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#189 Postby RBDnhm » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:59 pm

Re: Post 187 - the same or a similar air slot is visible in radar also.
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#190 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:00 pm

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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#191 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:04 pm

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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#192 Postby aperson » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:07 pm

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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#193 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:25 pm

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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#194 Postby jasons2k » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:34 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:This is where the Mets get paid the big bucks


Unfortunately, the vast majority of Mets don’t get paid “big bucks.”

Where the center goes (NNW vs N vs NNE) is going to make a huge difference
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#195 Postby SoupBone » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:37 pm

Has anyone been plotting movement speed? By just eyeing it, it seems to be moving a little faster than forecast, or am I just tired?
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ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#196 Postby jasons2k » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:37 pm

I think the real key for the Houston area is if this starts to drift more NNW later tonight into tomorrow as the NHC track implies.

I know we often preach that the line (forecast track) itself doesn’t matter, but in this case it does and it matters a lot.

I’ll be watching closely for any shifts in the track either direction.
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#197 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:41 pm

Since it already made landfall could this be the shortest lived TS of all time?
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#198 Postby StormLogic » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:42 pm

jasons wrote:I think the real key for the Houston area is if this starts to drift more NNW later tonight into tomorrow as the NHC track implies.

I know we often preach that the line (forecast track) itself doesn’t matter, but in this case it does and it matters a lot.

I’ll be watching closely for any shifts in the track either direction.


What's got me concerned is that the Euro,GFS, and Ukmet all have the high rainfall totals EAST of Houston.
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#199 Postby jasons2k » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:46 pm

The track did shift east slightly.
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Re: ATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#200 Postby Storm Battered » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:47 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Since it already made landfall could this be the shortest lived TS of all time?


It hasn't been downgraded yet.
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