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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#581 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:04 am

TD 9 or weak TS Humberto is actually depicted in this 12Z GFS run to be just off shore Mayport 1008 mb on 18Z (2:00 p.m. ) Sunday Morning.


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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#582 Postby wxman57 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:07 am

Center forming way east (25.3N/74.3W), even east of the NHC's position. 12Z GFS initialized the center way too far west at 76.6W. That's 150 miles too far west. Tells you not to believe the 12Z GFS' track closer to the Florida coast.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#583 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:10 am

wxman57 wrote:Center forming way east (25.3N/74.3W), even east of the NHC's position. 12Z GFS initialized the center way too far west at 76.6W. That's 150 miles too far west. Tells you not to believe the 12Z GFS' track closer to the Florida coast.



I posted this so you would throw cold water on this 57! I knew you would!! Right on cue!! LOL...... :lol: :lol:
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#584 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:10 am

Should see upgrade by 5. if not earlier. given the impacts on the islands.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#585 Postby wxman57 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:12 am

northjaxpro wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Center forming way east (25.3N/74.3W), even east of the NHC's position. 12Z GFS initialized the center way too far west at 76.6W. That's 150 miles too far west. Tells you not to believe the 12Z GFS' track closer to the Florida coast.



I posted this so you would throw cold water on this 57! I knew you would!! Right on cue!! LOL...... :lol: :lol:


Sorry, I didn't see your post before I posted mine. ;-)
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#586 Postby Weatherboy1 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:17 am

Yes, looks like we have a center reformation underway and that this would even further lessen the potential for an impact here in South Florida. Not 100% in the clear, of course, but certainly starting to hope/expect we may actually see some sun vs. have a washout of a weekend!
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#587 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:18 am

Thinking the loop idea for Florida is unlikely due to Nine getting above 30N before beginning a loop. I believe Betsy and Jeanne looped farther South. The hard right turn and due E movement the models are showing seems extreme too.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#588 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:18 am

Good to see you 57! I have been busy over here these past few weeks dealing with these storms as you can image. Been on edge. Just taking the edge off by having a little fun at your expense. :wink: But, I respect you and the job you and the other moderators do on here! You all do a great job running this site!
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#589 Postby xironman » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:18 am

Looks like they have found the dominate center. Now we have something to track
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#590 Postby LarryWx » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:23 am

Assuming the even further east center is confirmed, that should just about seal the deal for an easy OTS with regard to the US and a relaxing weekend!
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#591 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:31 am

LarryWx wrote:Assuming the even further east center is confirmed, that should just about seal the deal for an easy OTS with regard to the US and a relaxing weekend!



Larry, we need a good relaxing weekend down here after these past couple of weeks my friend. God knows I need it!!
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#592 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:40 am

Still a lot of dynamics to go.. we also have that other vort.. they both are rotating around.. the new center is likely to be swung more w to wnw until the old vort is absorbed.

also still have the timing to deal with. if it keeps its slow motion/stalled and that ridge build before it can escape then things change again. There is a reason why the ensembles are soo spread out.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#593 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:50 am

Threat to the USA and the Bahamas is quickly diminishing IMO with the developments today. Might get a nice, beautiful hurricane to track that'll generate some nice ACE too. Bermuda may have to watch out though.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#594 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:58 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Still a lot of dynamics to go.. we also have that other vort.. they both are rotating around.. the new center is likely to be swung more w to wnw until the old vort is absorbed.

also still have the timing to deal with. if it keeps its slow motion/stalled and that ridge build before it can escape then things change again. There is a reason why the ensembles are soo spread out.



You are right Aric. I never will take my eye off the situation for sure. I've been through this for too long to never, ever get complacent. But, I am liking the farther east trends continuing today. Hopefully, we won't get anymore surprises from TD 9 / soon-to be Humberto with loops , stalls closer to the coast. I am hopeful the system will get far enough offshore to not impact anyone with severe impacts. However, I need the rest after these past two weeks, so yeah, please TD 9, STAY AWAY!!!!.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#595 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:02 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Still a lot of dynamics to go.. we also have that other vort.. they both are rotating around.. the new center is likely to be swung more w to wnw until the old vort is absorbed.

also still have the timing to deal with. if it keeps its slow motion/stalled and that ridge build before it can escape then things change again. There is a reason why the ensembles are soo spread out.



You are right Aric. I never will take my eye off the situation for sure. I've been through this for too long to never, ever get complacent. But, I am liking the farther east trends continuing today. Hopefully, we won't get anymore surprises from TD 9 / soon-to be Humberto with loops , stalls closer to the coast. I am hopeful the system will get far enough offshore to not impact anyone with severe impacts. However, I need the rest after these past two weeks, so yeah, please TD 9, STAY AWAY!!!!.



And Recon showing that the two vorts are still intimately connected. leaving open all sorts of erratic motion scenarios
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#596 Postby jdjaguar » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:09 pm

Is the center roughly 25.6N 74.5W ?
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#597 Postby xironman » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:09 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Threat to the USA and the Bahamas is quickly diminishing IMO with the developments today. Might get a nice, beautiful hurricane to track that'll generate some nice ACE too. Bermuda may have to watch out though.


The timing for points NC and north is important, 24hrs later and the steering currents could block the storm.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#598 Postby GCANE » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:16 pm

Outflow in all quads.
Say goodbye to the UL trough.

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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#599 Postby Ucfkid » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:22 pm

What's causing the storms to miss Florida?
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine - Discussion

#600 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:26 pm

GCANE wrote:Outflow in all quads.
Say goodbye to the UL trough.

https://i.imgur.com/0nS5Euf.png




For the first time, I am beginning to see cirrus outflow (fanning of high cirrus clouds) as well in all quadrants. I agree this system is finally able to really breathe. It should start to organize now , with shear dropping off rapidly it appears, and an anticyclone is getting established over it.
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