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Ntxw wrote:It's not just that the "storms" in itself is the causation/effect of hot and dry (for Texas) but the broader wave pattern as well as bigger forces at play.
When the Atlantic heats up in late summer/early Fall it is usually because of increase favor-ability for the Atlantic Ocean. This favor-ability is tied to atmospheric oscillations and ridge-trough configurations that are associated with La Nina or La Nina like tropical forcing. And we all know what a true Nina can do for droughts.
On the other hand some of the wettest Falls like 2009, 2015, 2018 are associated with big EPAC seasons, or El Nino like wave patterns.
All of this is just a result of where the background tropical upward forcing is. In late summer and early Fall the wavelengths are not yet short so when tropical forcing slows down in any one region, you can get prolonged dry periods and vice versa. So the Tropical systems are a symptom of an overall more broad, stuck, pattern.
Now when talking about decadal or multi-year wet/dry Texas patterns the PDO in the Pacific has a much larger role. The -PDO from about 2005-2013 yielded one of the driest periods in Texas history. Immediately those fortunes flipped from 2014-2018 with the PDO reversal with the massive El Nino.
somethingfunny wrote:Ntxw wrote:It's not just that the "storms" in itself is the causation/effect of hot and dry (for Texas) but the broader wave pattern as well as bigger forces at play.
When the Atlantic heats up in late summer/early Fall it is usually because of increase favor-ability for the Atlantic Ocean. This favor-ability is tied to atmospheric oscillations and ridge-trough configurations that are associated with La Nina or La Nina like tropical forcing. And we all know what a true Nina can do for droughts.
On the other hand some of the wettest Falls like 2009, 2015, 2018 are associated with big EPAC seasons, or El Nino like wave patterns.
All of this is just a result of where the background tropical upward forcing is. In late summer and early Fall the wavelengths are not yet short so when tropical forcing slows down in any one region, you can get prolonged dry periods and vice versa. So the Tropical systems are a symptom of an overall more broad, stuck, pattern.
Now when talking about decadal or multi-year wet/dry Texas patterns the PDO in the Pacific has a much larger role. The -PDO from about 2005-2013 yielded one of the driest periods in Texas history. Immediately those fortunes flipped from 2014-2018 with the PDO reversal with the massive El Nino.
To expand on this a bit, the correlation is not perfect...
2004 was a wet summer in NTX, but also a busy hurricane season (although the season was DEAD until the start of August)
2007 another wet summer and an above-average season with two Cat5s.
2018 was wet but featured Florence and Michael to our east.
2017 was wet before (and during) Harvey but dry after.
I do think we've seen lots of evidence that Atlantic hurricanes recurving tend to amplify the East Coast trough (or be symptoms of amplification) which gives us a stronger Central US ridge. We see it all the time after an East Coast or Eastern GOM storm. Sometimes before them if the storm is recurving with an already static pattern... definitely afterward
With 2007's wet summer we had two very strong low-latitude hurricanes that didn't recurve, and Erin and Humberto striking Texas thanks to our persistent trough over the Central US, but over by the East Coast it was abnormally quiet.
rwfromkansas wrote:What’s the PDO look like for fall/winter at this point, or is that iffy?
South Texas Storms wrote:My parent's house finally won the rain lottery today in northwest SA! They haven't had much rain in months, but just today received almost 2 inches! Hopefully this is a sign that a wetter pattern will be returning to Texas soon.
Cpv17 wrote:South Texas Storms wrote:My parent's house finally won the rain lottery today in northwest SA! They haven't had much rain in months, but just today received almost 2 inches! Hopefully this is a sign that a wetter pattern will be returning to Texas soon.
The GFS and Euro still look blah for rain.
JDawg512 wrote:2nd day in a row that it rained at the Rain Cave. Recieved more rain in a 48 hour period than July and August combined.
Haris wrote:This time y'all won except me. Not a freaking drop. Was 100 again today. sigh... we need a widespread event. I havent seen a storm since July 8th.
Brent wrote:The Euro finally has a trough at the end of next week at least but the Atlantic to our east is very busy too
Brent wrote:The Euro finally has a trough at the end of next week at least but the Atlantic to our east is very busy too
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