ATL: DORIAN - Models

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5661 Postby d3v123 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:07 pm

So confused. Some people saying weaker trough, some people saying big trough. Some saying east shift, some saying west. Lol
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5662 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:07 pm

Euro is west not east.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5663 Postby b0tzy29 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:07 pm

12Z Euro - 100% shifted West..wozers..
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5664 Postby KC7NEC » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:07 pm

sponger wrote:Is this going to come down to global modeling versus tropical modeling? I assume tropical has higher resolution?


This pdf has some interesting tidbits about the models; when they are good, and when they are not. SO bassed on it here is some related items to your question:

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/outreach/prese ... asting.pdf

Global Models
Good:
• Developed for general
weather forecasting
• Handle large-scale pattern
and steering flow well
Bad:
• Can’t see details of TC inner
core
Sometimes struggle with
storm structure and intensity,
which can affect track
forecasts


Regional Hurricane Models
Good
Higher resolution means they
can potentially do a better job
of handling interactions
between TC and environment

Bad:
• Limited coverage means
features far away from TC
may not be handled as well,
which can degrade longerrange forecasts
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5665 Postby MrJames » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:08 pm

West but offshore heading NNW
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5666 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:08 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5667 Postby MrJames » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:09 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5668 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:09 pm

Afternoon everyone,

I have not posted in a few days mostly watching, But foer the sake of accuracy can we please have the ones on this board that knw how to read the models , post. As one poster said he can't figure out waht is what it's east it's west. At this time we need to knw not be gues thing thank u.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5669 Postby chris_fit » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:10 pm

Very similar to 00Z

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5670 Postby shah83 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:12 pm

Looking at the synoptics, the difference between the EC and CMC are pretty minimal. It's not going to take much for further west runs in the future. GFS is different in that it has the trough directly north and pulling east, where the other two has the trough to the east and a bit less influence. CMC has more ridging than EC.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5671 Postby otowntiger » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:12 pm

chris_fit wrote:Very similar to 00Z

https://i.imgur.com/z4jjapa.png

Someone just said west by 50 miles. This plot shows no change.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5672 Postby Vdogg » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:13 pm

Models have actually been fairly consistent the past 24 hrs. Track corrections seem to be less in magnitude, they may finally be getting a handle on this storm. We still have another day or two before it HAS to turn north according to the NHC, so I wouldn't get hung up on the continued west movement just yet.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5673 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:13 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:Afternoon everyone,

I have not posted in a few days mostly watching, But foer the sake of accuracy can we please have the ones on this board that knw how to read the models , post. As one poster said he can't figure out waht is what it's east it's west. At this time we need to knw not be gues thing thank u.


No, this is a discussion forum and this thread is for people to discuss models. If you need accurate information you go to the NHC and local authorities, not here. All we ask here is people stay on topic. Under no circumstances should anyone base a decision on a model run.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5674 Postby chris_fit » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:13 pm

otowntiger wrote:
chris_fit wrote:Very similar to 00Z

https://i.imgur.com/z4jjapa.png

Someone just said west by 50 miles. This plot shows no change.


I dont see anything of the sort
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5675 Postby typhoonty » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:14 pm

otowntiger wrote:
chris_fit wrote:Very similar to 00Z

https://i.imgur.com/z4jjapa.png

Someone just said west by 50 miles. This plot shows no change.


That is the 12Z, which is why it is no change
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5676 Postby Blown Away » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:15 pm

12z looks E of 06z...
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5677 Postby Ian2401 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:16 pm

12z UKMET ensembles??
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5678 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:17 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5679 Postby otowntiger » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:17 pm

Vdogg wrote:Models have actually been fairly consistent the past 24 hrs. Track corrections seem to be less in magnitude, they may finally be getting a handle on this storm. We still have another day or two before it HAS to turn north according to the NHC, so I wouldn't get hung up on the continued west movement just yet.

Agreed. I think wide swings either direction are finished. Of course relatively small adjustments now could still make pretty big differences to impacts on the coast and down the line. But I agree- the models seem to have a latched on to a fairly tight line.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5680 Postby MrJames » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:17 pm

TT shows the last 12z run (yesterday) instead of the last run (00Z) for the trend. It is 50 miles west of the last 12z. My error. Also, looking at the 6z Euro run. This may be east of it.
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