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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1541 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:20 pm

Blown Away wrote:What is a good website to view satellite loops and be able to create .gif's to post??? Thanks...

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1542 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:29 pm

With the latest 18z Euro, GFS and HWRF becoming more aggressive with Dorian the NHC will have to bump up Dorian's forecast to at least a Cat 1 by Sunday.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1543 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:30 pm

NDG wrote:With the latest 18z Euro, GFS and HWRF becoming more aggressive with Dorian the NHC will have to bump up Dorian's forecast to at least a Cat 1 by Sunday.

Yes. Sadly everything is now bombing this storm out. At this point, we better hope the OTS outliers are true (although unlikely)
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#1544 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:38 pm

NDG wrote:With the latest 18z Euro, GFS and HWRF becoming more aggressive with Dorian the NHC will have to bump up Dorian's forecast to at least a Cat 1 by Sunday.
Not if lixion avila is on duty?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1545 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:38 pm

I'm predicting at 11pm they will show a hurricane day 4/5 and maybe leave position off the Florida coast and make the 5 day cone bubble bigger to include points farther north...
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1546 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:40 pm

jasons wrote:
Hammy wrote:
otowntiger wrote:If it goes over the middle of PR that could kill it- while PR traditionally is no ‘Shredder’ like Hispaniola, it can be to this tiny, struggling system.


That's essentially what I'm expecting. If that happens the shear will be too much for it to recover. But if it manages to miss that all goes out the window.


Watch the video from Levi, posted above. He talks about this specific topic. It could weaken the storm, but it's not enough to "kill" it.


I love Levi's videos and explanations, but there have been promets stating the complete opposite. I'm not sure any of us really know for sure.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1547 Postby GeneratorPower » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:41 pm

Blown Away wrote:I'm predicting at 11pm they will show a hurricane day 4/5 and maybe leave position off the Florida coast and make the 5 day cone bubble bigger to include points farther north...

Size of bubble is fixed and depends strictly on days-away and prior years’ forecast error. It does not change based on uncertainty of particular storm.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1548 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:43 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:
Blown Away wrote:I'm predicting at 11pm they will show a hurricane day 4/5 and maybe leave position off the Florida coast and make the 5 day cone bubble bigger to include points farther north...

Size of bubble is fixed and depends strictly on days-away and prior years’ forecast error. It does not change based on uncertainty of particular storm.

Yes, I meant compress due to possible slowing down at days 4/5 based on latest GFS...
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1549 Postby GeneratorPower » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:43 pm

Definition of the NHC Track Forecast Cone

Definition:

The cone represents the probable track of the center of a tropical cyclone, and is formed by enclosing the area swept out by a set of circles (not shown) along the forecast track (at 12, 24, 36 hours, etc). The size of each circle is set so that two-thirds of historical official forecast errors over a 5-year sample fall within the circle.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1550 Postby toad strangler » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:43 pm

Blown Away wrote:I'm predicting at 11pm they will show a hurricane day 4/5 and maybe leave position off the Florida coast and make the 5 day cone bubble bigger to include points farther north...


It’s my understanding that the cone size does not change but reflects real margin of error. I think they only change sizing during offseason as new scores are computed.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1551 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:44 pm

Looks like the center has moved under the convection when before it was on the very edge of the convection so it looks like it has finally come together
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1552 Postby GeneratorPower » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:45 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:Definition of the NHC Track Forecast Cone

Definition:

The cone represents the probable track of the center of a tropical cyclone, and is formed by enclosing the area swept out by a set of circles (not shown) along the forecast track (at 12, 24, 36 hours, etc). The size of each circle is set so that two-thirds of historical official forecast errors over a 5-year sample fall within the circle.


So if it’s done properly, the storm center falls within the cone only 66% of the time. A full 33% of the time, one should expect the track of Dorian, for example, to fall outside the cone.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1553 Postby toad strangler » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:45 pm

SoupBone wrote:
jasons wrote:
Hammy wrote:
That's essentially what I'm expecting. If that happens the shear will be too much for it to recover. But if it manages to miss that all goes out the window.


Watch the video from Levi, posted above. He talks about this specific topic. It could weaken the storm, but it's not enough to "kill" it.


I love Levi's videos and explanations, but there have been promets stating the complete opposite. I'm not sure any of us really know for sure.


Complete opposite of what? Levi laid out every scenario. He didn’t forecast anything.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1554 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:49 pm

toad strangler wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
jasons wrote:
Watch the video from Levi, posted above. He talks about this specific topic. It could weaken the storm, but it's not enough to "kill" it.


I love Levi's videos and explanations, but there have been promets stating the complete opposite. I'm not sure any of us really know for sure.


Complete opposite of what? Levi laid out every scenario. He didn’t forecast anything.


Did you read the posts in this chain? :lol:

Read what Jason posted. It's the debate about where Puerto Rico could kill it. Levi said in his video that it's not enough, but others (promets) have posted that it could. Again, not knocking Levi, his work is top tier, I just don't think anyone knows until it happens or doesn't. Though Puerto Rico surely doesn't need this either way.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1555 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:50 pm

No recon reports for the last 30 mins again
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1556 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:52 pm

BULLETIN
Tropical Storm Dorian Advisory Number 15
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL052019
1100 PM AST Tue Aug 27 2019

...DORIAN HAS SHOWN LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH BUT IS EXPECTED TO
STRENGTHEN BEFORE REACHING PUERTO RICO ON WEDNESDAY...



SUMMARY OF 1100 PM AST...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...16.0N 63.0W
ABOUT 275 MI...440 KM ESE OF PONCE PUERTO RICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 310 DEGREES AT 13 MPH...20 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1006 MB...29.71 INCHES
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1557 Postby Kazmit » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:52 pm

NHC now takes it to an 80mph cat 1. Let the media panic begin.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1558 Postby galaxy401 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:52 pm

Wow the NHC has Dorian jump up to 65 mph in 12 hours before it hits Puerto Rico. Let's see if he can do that or not.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1559 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:53 pm

New forecast shows it to become a Hurricane by Friday.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1560 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:54 pm

Kazmit wrote:NHC now takes it to an 80mph cat 1. Let the media panic begin.


The word hurricane will definitely ramp up the coverage.
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