TALK ABOUT TENACIOUS!! IS NICK GOING.........

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TALK ABOUT TENACIOUS!! IS NICK GOING.........

#1 Postby dixiebreeze » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:26 am

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#2 Postby JCT777 » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:25 am

Nick is almost as persistant as Kyle was last year. He just doesn't want to go away.
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#3 Postby stormchazer » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:31 am

Give the NHC credit because yesterday this board was saying they should downgrade Nick. It maybe dumb luck but the NHC looks a bit vindicated.
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#4 Postby Josephine96 » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:45 am

Nick is fighting.. that's for sure... Lets' see how long he keeps up his fight and how far west he goes before dying out.
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#5 Postby dixiebreeze » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:51 am

He is definitely farther west than most people thought he would be at this time.
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#6 Postby Josephine96 » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:54 am

That's for sure Dixie.. I almost wish he was moving just a tad bit faster. He's slowly trekking across the Atlantic right now.. I wonder if he'll pick up any forward speed.
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#7 Postby ColdFront77 » Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:19 pm

It looks like Tropical Storm Nicholas would have been upgraded after being downgraded yesterday.

The National Hurricane Center made a good call by keeping it at tropical storm status.
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#8 Postby wxman57 » Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:07 pm

ColdFront77 wrote:It looks like Tropical Storm Nicholas would have been upgraded after being downgraded yesterday.

The National Hurricane Center made a good call by keeping it at tropical storm status.


Storms constantly fluctuate in intensity, and the NHC advisories indicate these fluctuations when a storm decreases or increases 5-10 kts.. What's the difference when that fluctuation occurs near 35kts? Nicholas should have been downgraded to a TD yesterday morning, then upgraded last night, then downgraded again this afternoon. No way in heck it's a TS now.
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#9 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:18 pm

I have to disagree with you wxman, Nick should still be a TS, I've seen storms upgraded to TS status that have looked worse.
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#10 Postby wxman57 » Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:21 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:I have to disagree with you wxman, Nick should still be a TS, I've seen storms upgraded to TS status that have looked worse.


Take a look at this final visible image, showing the center displaced over 100 miles from that one squall. The low-level swirl is winding down. I doubt that the winds are more than 20-25 kts around the center. That squall could have 30-35 kt winds in it at best, but it's only one squall well-removed from the center. The NHC wouldn't normally upgrade something like this to a TD, much less a TS, but they just can't let go of a storm one it is named

Also note that the center is clearly north of 19N at 3pm CDT, but the NHC has it at 18.7N at 4pm CDT.

<img src="http://home.houston.rr.com/wx/nick2.gif">
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#11 Postby Anonymous » Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:12 pm

Kate had the same problem right before reaching cane status. I wouldn't downgrade it yet even though it poses no threat to land.
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#12 Postby Anonymous » Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:27 pm

Take a look at this final visible image, showing the center displaced over 100 miles from that one squall.


Yep :lol:

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#13 Postby ColdFront77 » Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:32 pm

wxman57 wrote:Storms constantly fluctuate in intensity, and the NHC advisories indicate these fluctuations when a storm decreases or increases 5-10 kts.. What's the difference when that fluctuation occurs near 35kts? Nicholas should have been downgraded to a TD yesterday morning, then upgraded last night, then downgraded again this afternoon. No way in heck it's a TS now.

I have no reason to disagree with you.

Nicholas has a lot of convection, there is no question about that, but the center is indeed to the west of this "blob."
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Nick's intensity...

#14 Postby Anonymous » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:07 pm

Nicholas keeps fluctuating, trying to be like a category 4. It goes from 50 to 40 to 60 to 45 mph, it's trying to beat out Kyle and Alberto.
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