ATL: DORIAN - Models
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
The 0Z Euro is very weak coming into the Lesser Antilles. This is easily the weakest of the last 4 runs.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

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Very useful information on the Dvorak Technique --
https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/TCF ... kBeven.pdf
https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/TCF ... kBeven.pdf
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
LarryWx wrote:The 0Z Euro is very weak coming into the Lesser Antilles.
Seems like the Euro keeps this to far south ,more than the other models
Also already Dorian appears to be gaining latitude
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
Ukmet, GFS legacy,Nogaps,HWRF, Icon ,Stronger and further north
New GFS ,Euro, HMON, Canadian ,weak and further south
Who knows
New GFS ,Euro, HMON, Canadian ,weak and further south
Who knows

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
MetroMike wrote:HWRF is strenthening after hitting PR.
The fixed the 00Z run brought the strength down to cat 1 at landfall in PR and changed the track to spend a few hours more in the Mona passage.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
AtlanticWind wrote:LarryWx wrote:The 0Z Euro is very weak coming into the Lesser Antilles.
Seems like the Euro keeps this to far south ,more than the other models
Also already Dorian appears to be gaining latitude
Its not gaining latitube right now
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
The majority of Euro ensembles track Dorian south of Barbados as a weak system.


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
If Dorian today and tomorrow morning picks up forward speed and does not gain latitude then the latest GFS and Euro will be correct in it not gaining much strength as it tracks through the Lesser Antilles.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
You know how models typically have a right bias.... I've been expecting this to possibly go N of the shredder but Could it actually miss Hispaniola to the south?
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bamajammer4eva wrote:You know how models typically have a right bias.... I've been expecting this to possibly go N of the shredder but Could it actually miss Hispaniola to the south?
If it goes south of Hispaniola it’s game over due to the TUTT and a ULL.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
NDG wrote:The majority of Euro ensembles track Dorian south of Barbados as a weak system.
https://i.imgur.com/2ewYmuG.png
The bigger picture shows that the Euro Ensemble support (at least beyond the islands) has gone way down.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
12z SHIPS:
* ATLANTIC 2019 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* DORIAN AL052019 08/25/19 12 UTC *
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
V (KT) NO LAND 35 36 38 41 44 51 57 63 66 69 69 72 74
V (KT) LAND 35 36 38 41 44 51 57 63 66 69 69 55 48
V (KT) LGEM 35 36 37 39 41 46 52 58 62 65 67 54 47
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP
SHEAR (KT) 6 4 1 1 5 2 8 11 16 16 20 8 2
SHEAR ADJ (KT) 2 2 5 5 1 -1 0 -5 -7 -4 -5 -3 -2
SHEAR DIR 98 115 168 324 4 308 302 254 264 244 255 212 243
SST (C) 28.1 28.3 28.4 28.4 28.7 28.9 29.0 29.2 28.9 29.1 29.1 29.1 29.2
POT. INT. (KT) 139 142 143 143 147 151 152 155 150 153 153 153 155
ADJ. POT. INT. 139 142 142 142 147 151 150 153 146 147 146 145 146
200 MB T (C) -54.2 -54.1 -54.1 -54.4 -54.5 -54.1 -54.4 -54.1 -54.4 -54.3 -54.3 -54.3 -54.5
200 MB VXT (C) -0.2 -0.2 -0.2 -0.2 -0.2 -0.3 -0.3 -0.3 -0.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
TH_E DEV (C) 10 10 11 10 10 11 10 11 11 13 12 13 12
700-500 MB RH 39 39 41 42 43 47 50 49 49 47 49 52 55
MODEL VTX (KT) 11 10 10 10 10 9 8 6 5 LOST LOST LOST LOST
850 MB ENV VOR 15 15 8 4 1 9 9 16 19 17 7 2 -21
200 MB DIV -17 -15 -11 -3 -16 -4 15 18 25 32 -6 -4 -6
700-850 TADV -7 -5 -5 -3 -1 0 1 -1 2 3 5 1 4
LAND (KM) 628 631 624 572 490 311 322 444 269 145 57 -55 52
LAT (DEG N) 11.1 11.4 11.6 11.9 12.1 12.8 13.7 14.7 15.7 16.6 17.6 18.8 20.2
LONG(DEG W) 52.3 53.5 54.6 55.6 56.7 59.0 61.1 63.0 65.1 66.9 68.6 70.3 72.0
STM SPEED (KT) 12 12 11 11 11 12 11 11 10 10 10 10 11
HEAT CONTENT 12 17 24 31 44 41 45 45 47 76 91 66 47
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* DORIAN AL052019 08/25/19 12 UTC *
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
V (KT) NO LAND 35 36 38 41 44 51 57 63 66 69 69 72 74
V (KT) LAND 35 36 38 41 44 51 57 63 66 69 69 55 48
V (KT) LGEM 35 36 37 39 41 46 52 58 62 65 67 54 47
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP
SHEAR (KT) 6 4 1 1 5 2 8 11 16 16 20 8 2
SHEAR ADJ (KT) 2 2 5 5 1 -1 0 -5 -7 -4 -5 -3 -2
SHEAR DIR 98 115 168 324 4 308 302 254 264 244 255 212 243
SST (C) 28.1 28.3 28.4 28.4 28.7 28.9 29.0 29.2 28.9 29.1 29.1 29.1 29.2
POT. INT. (KT) 139 142 143 143 147 151 152 155 150 153 153 153 155
ADJ. POT. INT. 139 142 142 142 147 151 150 153 146 147 146 145 146
200 MB T (C) -54.2 -54.1 -54.1 -54.4 -54.5 -54.1 -54.4 -54.1 -54.4 -54.3 -54.3 -54.3 -54.5
200 MB VXT (C) -0.2 -0.2 -0.2 -0.2 -0.2 -0.3 -0.3 -0.3 -0.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
TH_E DEV (C) 10 10 11 10 10 11 10 11 11 13 12 13 12
700-500 MB RH 39 39 41 42 43 47 50 49 49 47 49 52 55
MODEL VTX (KT) 11 10 10 10 10 9 8 6 5 LOST LOST LOST LOST
850 MB ENV VOR 15 15 8 4 1 9 9 16 19 17 7 2 -21
200 MB DIV -17 -15 -11 -3 -16 -4 15 18 25 32 -6 -4 -6
700-850 TADV -7 -5 -5 -3 -1 0 1 -1 2 3 5 1 4
LAND (KM) 628 631 624 572 490 311 322 444 269 145 57 -55 52
LAT (DEG N) 11.1 11.4 11.6 11.9 12.1 12.8 13.7 14.7 15.7 16.6 17.6 18.8 20.2
LONG(DEG W) 52.3 53.5 54.6 55.6 56.7 59.0 61.1 63.0 65.1 66.9 68.6 70.3 72.0
STM SPEED (KT) 12 12 11 11 11 12 11 11 10 10 10 10 11
HEAT CONTENT 12 17 24 31 44 41 45 45 47 76 91 66 47
.SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold= 5% is 1.0 times climatological mean ( 5.2%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 21% is 1.9 times climatological mean (10.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 15% is 2.1 times climatological mean ( 6.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 11% is 2.6 times climatological mean ( 3.8%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 9% is 4.4 times climatological mean ( 2.4%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 13% is 2.8 times climatological mean ( 4.5%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 19% is 4.1 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold= 35% is 6.5 times climatological mean ( 5.4%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 21% is 1.9 times climatological mean (10.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 15% is 2.1 times climatological mean ( 6.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 11% is 2.6 times climatological mean ( 3.8%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 9% is 4.4 times climatological mean ( 2.4%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 13% is 2.8 times climatological mean ( 4.5%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 19% is 4.1 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold= 35% is 6.5 times climatological mean ( 5.4%)
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Very useful information on the Dvorak Technique --
https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/TCF ... kBeven.pdf
https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/TCF ... kBeven.pdf
Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
bamajammer4eva wrote:If it doesn't hang out too long over the shredder...
https://i.imgur.com/hY4yAxf.gif
GFS really?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
The GFS shear forecast shows some shear over the vicinity of Hispaniola on Thursday, but not really that strong: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 512&fh=102
The upper level low causing the shear will be moving W/NW just ahead of Dorian. While the environment is not ideal, I think the storm could hold its own. Of course, it will certainly weaken because of land interaction with Hispaniola.
The upper level low causing the shear will be moving W/NW just ahead of Dorian. While the environment is not ideal, I think the storm could hold its own. Of course, it will certainly weaken because of land interaction with Hispaniola.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
No consensus at all this morning
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
TexWx wrote:bamajammer4eva wrote:If it doesn't hang out too long over the shredder...
https://i.imgur.com/hY4yAxf.gif
GFS really?
Why not? GoM is ripe, it's just a question of whether this storm gets there.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models
cmc 12z kinda scary
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