Do you really add the forward speed to the wind speeds?

rob8303 · #1 Postby **rob8303** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:36 pm

I was reading a transcript on cnn.com from Hurricane Isabel from what their met, Chad Myers said. He said that on the east side of the storm you have to add the forward speed to the wind speeds to get the combined total. So Isabel was moving at what 15 when it hit land with 100 mph winds. So why was the strongest gust only 105. If this wnd speed=forward motion theory was true, shouldn't the gusts have been 115? If not, why not and how does that fit into the theory?

#2 Postby **wxman57** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:31 pm

No, you DO NOT add forward speed on. The max sustained wind given by the NHC already takes forward speed into account.

#3 Postby **abajan** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:15 pm

wxman57 wrote:No, you DO NOT add forward speed on. The max sustained wind given by the NHC already takes forward speed into account.

Now I'm confused because I've heard other Mets say that you add the forward speed to the stated maximum sustained winds to the right of track and subtract to the left of track. :o I've heard Orland Sidney and Valerie Voss (both CNN Meteorologists) state this on different occasions. Hmmm...this doesn't look so good for CNN's Mets. LOL

OtherHD · #4 Postby **OtherHD** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:31 pm

Here come the CNN jokes. :roll:

It's like clockwork.

Stormsfury · #5 Postby **Stormsfury** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:37 pm

wxman57 wrote:No, you DO NOT add forward speed on. The max sustained wind given by the NHC already takes forward speed into account.

This is correct.

Abajan wrote:Now I'm confused because I've heard other Mets say that you add the forward speed to the stated maximum sustained winds to the right of track and subtract to the left of track. I've heard Orland Sidney and Valerie Voss (both CNN Meteorologists) state this on different occasions. Hmmm...this doesn't look so good for CNN's Mets. LOL

The fact of the matter is that the forward speed of the hurricane and the maximum sustained winds are already factored by the NHC in their advisories so this makes this true. Obviously, OtherHD nailed this one on the head and I'll start the joke that CNN seems quite misinformed regarding this. (But then again I guess it fits the CNN theme ... LOL)

SF

OtherHD · #6 Postby **OtherHD** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:42 pm

Stormsfury wrote:Obviously, OtherHD nailed this one on the head and I'll start the joke that CNN seems quite misinformed regarding this. (But then again I guess it fits the CNN theme ... LOL)

SF

Just.like.clockwork.

tropicana · #7 Postby **tropicana** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:02 pm

ah yeahhhh i miss cnn's valerie voss...to me.... cnn weather was never the same without her being there..

#8 Postby **cycloneye** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:09 am

I also miss Flip Spiceland.

#9 Postby **abajan** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:27 pm

cycloneye wrote:I also miss Flip Spiceland.

Yeah, Flip really loved what he was doing. You could just feel it.

tropicana · #10 Postby **tropicana** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:25 pm

Yes Flip was good.... but Valerie was still the best to me.

#11 Postby **abajan** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:12 pm

When CNN first aired in the '80s there was a guy named Nick Gregory who was also pretty good. He once came to Barbados and did a guest presentation of the weather on our T.V station. But you're right, tropicana, Val Voss was the best.

You know, I can remember fairly well when CNN started up. Let's see, there was Ralph Wenge, Pat Harvey (a real knockout!), Nick Gregory and that guy with a British accent that used to deal with financial matters...(what's his name again?...)

Oh well, maybe I don't recall those early days as well as I think but their theme song for Daybreak back then was (IMHO) the best.

tropicana · #12 Postby **tropicana** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:44 pm

abajan... it was Stuart Varney i think..the cnn financial guy.

as we keep plugging cnn...i also liked karen mcginnis...she was the evening weather gal.

ColdFront77 · #13 Postby **ColdFront77** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:23 am

cycloneye wrote:I also miss Flip Spiceland.

abajan wrote:Yeah, Flip really loved what he was doing. You could just feel it.

Flip Spiceland is still in Atlanta, but on the NBC affiliate... WXIA-TV 11 (11 Alive).

tropicana wrote:As we keep plugging cnn...i also liked karen mcginnis...she was the evening weather gal.

Karen McGinnis is also [still] in Atlanta... on FOX5 (WAGA-TV).

#14 Postby **abajan** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:11 am

tropicana wrote:abajan... it was Stuart Varney i think..the cnn financial guy.

Yep, that's who I meant.

tropicana · #15 Postby **tropicana** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:42 pm

Thank you for the info ColdFront. I'm glad that Flip and Karen haven't gone very far.
Anyone know what ever happen to Valerie Voss ?

ColdFront77 · #16 Postby **ColdFront77** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:38 pm

You're welcome tropicana.

I couldn't find any information about Valerie Voss when I found the information on Flip Spiceland (which I knew about from previous searches) and Karen McGinnis.

rob8303 · #17 Postby **rob8303** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:20 pm

Why did CNN fire all these good mets and replace them with gals like Orleon Sydney and Jaqui Jeras?

#18 Postby **MGC** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:54 pm

MONEY is why they were fired.....MGC

ColdFront77 · #19 Postby **ColdFront77** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:04 pm

I am not positive if Flip Spiceland and Karen McGinnis were no longer on CNN before mid to late 2001, but I do know that most of CNN's reporters and anchors were fired in September 2001, on and around Tuesday, September 11, 2001.

Lou Waters, Natalie Allen, Gene Randall, Frank Sesno are among those that were let go in September 2001.

tropicana · #20 Postby **tropicana** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:50 pm

Lou Waters and Natalie Allen were a definite winning combination way back when.... on their afternoon show. Geez...i miss all those people...i'm a cnn-a-holic i think.

Do you really add the forward speed to the wind speeds?

Do you really add the forward speed to the wind speeds?

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