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Area South of Bermuda

#1 Postby MacTavish » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:29 am

Anyone notice the very small surface low producing some convection? It was doing the same yesterday however, since it is so small, I expected it to be gone by now.
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#2 Postby Siker » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:10 am

Wow, great spot. You can barely even tell it’s there on the Atlantic-wide view. It’s in a very dry environment and likely to experience significant northerly shear in the next few days, but for now it has a vigorous little LLC.

Image from earlier where you can see several quite dry low level bands:

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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#3 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:47 am

If there are TD force winds in that it looks classifiable to me just judging on that image. Neat little system.
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#4 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:55 am

Looks better-organized than Barry. Definitely a LLC with convection around it. Lots of northerly shear now. The whole thing is about 50 miles across.
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#5 Postby StormLogic » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:39 am

My girlfriend was looking at my screen when I found this on sat and she said "aww it's so cute" lol
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#6 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:44 am

wxman57 wrote:Looks better-organized than Barry. Definitely a LLC with convection around it. Lots of northerly shear now. The whole thing is about 50 miles across.

Yet the NHC doesn't care about it since it likely won't directly affect any land masses expect maybe Bermuda?
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#7 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:37 am

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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#8 Postby TheAustinMan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:52 am

What a curious little system. All told it's not that far off from 2011's Tropical Storm Jose. Assuming convective persistence and a closed surface circulation (a 1330z METOP-B ASCAT pass suggested the probable existence of one with 15 kt winds), I suppose it meets standards for a tropical cyclone, though at the same time the definition of tropical cyclone is quite muddled and ill-defined.
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#9 Postby MacTavish » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:58 am

TheAustinMan wrote:What a curious little system. All told it's not that far off from 2011's Tropical Storm Jose. Assuming convective persistence and a closed surface circulation (a 1330z METOP-B ASCAT pass suggested the probable existence of one with 15 kt winds), I suppose it meets standards for a tropical cyclone, though at the same time the definition of tropical cyclone is quite muddled and ill-defined.


My question would be: What does it lack? Looks like a closed LLC with persistent convection near the center and mostly likely some gusty winds under that convection.
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#10 Postby CyclonicFury » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:04 am

MacTavish wrote:
TheAustinMan wrote:What a curious little system. All told it's not that far off from 2011's Tropical Storm Jose. Assuming convective persistence and a closed surface circulation (a 1330z METOP-B ASCAT pass suggested the probable existence of one with 15 kt winds), I suppose it meets standards for a tropical cyclone, though at the same time the definition of tropical cyclone is quite muddled and ill-defined.


My question would be: What does it lack? Looks like a closed LLC with persistent convection near the center and mostly likely some gusty winds under that convection.

The convection hasn't really persisted for long enough yet, and any dry air or even light shear could quickly destroy this fragile system.
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#11 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:06 am

Shear dropped off and it looks more impressive now:

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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#12 Postby AnnularCane » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:08 am

StormLogic wrote:My girlfriend was looking at my screen when I found this on sat and she said "aww it's so cute" lol



It is cute! Maybe it will be another Lee....okay, probably not. :)
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#13 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:12 am

I agree with you 57. I think this little booger is looking the best it has so far right now.
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#14 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:15 am

Seems invest worthy along with worth mentioning in the next TWO.
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#15 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:31 am

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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#16 Postby CyclonicFury » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:36 am

supercane4867 wrote:loop

https://i.imgur.com/HyEMeLK.gif

Looking at visible alone I'd say that looks like a TD. The convection is likely going to need to persist longer for NHC to classify, though.
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#17 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:37 am

:uarrow: Nice convective blowup right near the LLC. It sure looks like a classifiable system to me.
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#18 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:49 am

Surprised no models picked up on this, unless it’s from the piece that broke up from ex-93L
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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#19 Postby Siker » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:57 am

AutoPenalti wrote:Surprised no models picked up on this, unless it’s from the piece that broke up from ex-93L


GFS shows a single closed isobar, basically the same as showing a TS :wink: :

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Re: Area South of Bermuda

#20 Postby CyclonicFury » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:16 pm

ASCAT-C confirms there is indeed a well-defined circulation present. It's going to be interesting to see if NHC mentions this system in their 2PM TWO.

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