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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1701 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:33 am

panamatropicwatch wrote:
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CrazyC83 wrote:I'd probably go with a 60 kt intensity based on trends and previous flights...do we have any good oil rig data?


nothing but the center location from the calm winds and 997mb pressure at KEIR


I don't see that station reporting a pressure.
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=KEIR

But did get a pressure reading from EINL1 with a pressure of 994.2mb at 0400z and it is located approximately 50nm northwest of last reported position. Its pressure has gone up a little since then.


You can see the rig show nnw then calm and now SE winds. the center passed right over it. moving west to wnw..

something is not going as forecast right now. hopefully, it turns soon.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1702 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:36 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
panamatropicwatch wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
nothing but the center location from the calm winds and 997mb pressure at KEIR


I don't see that station reporting a pressure.
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=KEIR

But did get a pressure reading from EINL1 with a pressure of 994.2mb at 0400z and it is located approximately 50nm northwest of last reported position. Its pressure has gone up a little since then.


You can see the rig show nnw then calm and now SE winds. the center passed right over it. moving west to wnw..

something is not going as forecast right now. hopefully, it turns soon.



Cool graphic, where can I get one of those. 8-)
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1703 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:45 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
panamatropicwatch wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
nothing but the center location from the calm winds and 997mb pressure at KEIR


I don't see that station reporting a pressure.
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=KEIR

But did get a pressure reading from EINL1 with a pressure of 994.2mb at 0400z and it is located approximately 50nm northwest of last reported position. Its pressure has gone up a little since then.


You can see the rig show nnw then calm and now SE winds. the center passed right over it. moving west to wnw..

something is not going as forecast right now. hopefully, it turns soon.

https://i.ibb.co/R91hjSP/cdtykjcguk.gif


For a center moving 3mph, it makes very little sense for it to be that far west already. That could have been another eddy.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1704 Postby BRweather » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:45 am

Looks to be an asymmetric gyre now with weaker circulation at the top and the stronger circulation embedded in the deep convection. Looking at shortwave IR has led me to this thinking.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1705 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:45 am

The microwave loop shows that convection is trying to wrap around the center

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1706 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:49 am

Since we don't have recon, it would be nice if Barry would cooperate and show us a nice discernible eye 8-)
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1707 Postby BRweather » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:50 am

Yeah with the 1:00AM advisory coordinates for the center that has to mean the center is mostly embedded in the eastern convection. Very interesting storm.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1708 Postby chaser1 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:18 am

The hours continue to tick on by and Barry is simply running out of time while making very little progress toward maintaining any semblance of northern semi-circle banding or convection. This storm is a pretty hot mess.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1709 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:21 am

Looks pretty good (healthy) to me on satellite right now.

chaser1 wrote:The hours continue to tick on by and Barry is simply running out of time while making very little progress toward maintaining any semblance of northern semi-circle banding or convection. This storm is a pretty hot mess.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1710 Postby BRweather » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:28 am

Storms to the west are finally dying off as cloud-tops start to warm. I am very curious to see what happens in the next 6 hours. Does not seem like the deep convection near/over the center is going anywhere soon.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1711 Postby galaxy401 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:34 am

Anyone know when we will get the next recon mission?
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1712 Postby BRweather » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:37 am

galaxy401 wrote:Anyone know when we will get the next recon mission?


Scheduled for 5:30AM CDT - Air Force will be conducting it.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1713 Postby chaser1 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:45 am

Stormcenter wrote:Looks pretty good (healthy) to me on satellite right now.

chaser1 wrote:The hours continue to tick on by and Barry is simply running out of time while making very little progress toward maintaining any semblance of northern semi-circle banding or convection. This storm is a pretty hot mess.


I'll admit that this storm may finally be pulling convection up to the eastern edge of the COC but has yet to actually wrap deep convection around the north quadrant of any defined LLC. At least up to now, I've seen Rorschach Inkblot tests that look healthier then this. Whether that will actually change in the span of 12 or so hours remains to be seen
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1714 Postby TheProfessor » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:49 am

Fell asleep pretty early, woke up earlier than I wanted to as well. I was fixing to go to sleep until they issued a tor warning for the rain band that's going to get pretty close to me.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1715 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:31 am

BRweather wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:Anyone know when we will get the next recon mission?


Scheduled for 5:30AM CDT - Air Force will be conducting it.


The last two recon flights yesterday evening were short, the AF recon just did one pass, as if they just stopped them all the sudden.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1716 Postby otowntiger » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:32 am

chaser1 wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Looks pretty good (healthy) to me on satellite right now.

chaser1 wrote:The hours continue to tick on by and Barry is simply running out of time while making very little progress toward maintaining any semblance of northern semi-circle banding or convection. This storm is a pretty hot mess.


I'll admit that this storm may finally be pulling convection up to the eastern edge of the COC but has yet to actually wrap deep convection around the north quadrant of any defined LLC. At least up to now, I've seen Rorschach Inkblot tests that look healthier then this. Whether that will actually change in the span of 12 or so hours remains to be seen
. Agreed- this continues to be a very poorly organized storm. There continues to be absolutely zero convection in the entire northern semi circle. It has the most unimpressive radar signature..
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1717 Postby Innotech » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:07 am

checking in from Lafayette. weather is clear here still. cant even tell something is off the coast.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1718 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:09 am

06z sounding from Slidell LA still shows the relentless dry northerly shear towards the storm.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1719 Postby GCANE » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:39 am

Convective Inhibition covering the entire state of LA.
Given the cloud cover, this may not clear out today.
This could be about as strong as Barry gets.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1720 Postby otowntiger » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:54 am

Innotech wrote:checking in from Lafayette. weather is clear here still. cant even tell something is off the coast.

Lol, because there really isn’t anything off the coast. At least not much of anything but a significantly sheared lopsided mess.
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