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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#441 Postby Jarodm12 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:56 pm

NTXW!!! So brother what's the chances this storm ends up being a major winter storm for southern Oklahoma and northern Texas? I'm getting excited my temps in Durant are marginal at 33 degrees but with that heavy of precip it's most likely sleet right?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#442 Postby Captmorg70 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:02 pm

Isn’t it too warm at the 850mb level for that to be sleet on the NAM?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#443 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:09 pm

Jarodm12 wrote:NTXW!!! So brother what's the chances this storm ends up being a major winter storm for southern Oklahoma and northern Texas? I'm getting excited my temps in Durant are marginal at 33 degrees but with that heavy of precip it's most likely sleet right?


1/4 shot I'd say at this time for us. I'd watch 850s and how much they get pulled in by the ULL. I don't think the surface will be terribly cold for a true ice event though we're relying on upper dynamics.

Captmorg70 wrote:Isn’t it too warm at the 850mb level for that to be sleet on the NAM?


Seems a little warm, I don't know what the algorithm tropical tidbits has for it. Profiles on the NAM supports a cold rain if looking at skewT. Stranger things have happened especially when you get a heavy thunderstorm inside cold dynamics. Lets see what the Globals say here in the next two hours.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#444 Postby Captmorg70 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:13 pm

I agree. Will be interesting to watch. The Nam has been slowly trending colder. We are still 60+ hours out from event. Still time to watch for last minute trends
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#445 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:40 pm

Trends continue in the right direction. Models have followed the same biases that we have come to expect. No reason at all to change my original thoughts on this storm of a mix transitioning to snow west of DFW. For DFW proper still expecting a change to snow before it ends, but no accumulations expected.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#446 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:09 pm

0z GFS and CMC stays similar to earlier runs
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#447 Postby JayDT » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:17 pm

Ntxw wrote:0z GFS and CMC stays similar to earlier runs


Hopefully they’ll trend more towards the NAM tomorrow
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#448 Postby Brent » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:24 am

Euro has a little snow in Wichita Falls again, slightly better than last run, also a little snow just across the border in Oklahoma north of DFW

oh and the end of the run has another Oklahoma snowstorm that is a close call along the Red River next Friday after more widespread rain

Meanwhile the 6z NAM has a foot of snow in Wichita Falls and Southern Oklahoma on the clown map lol with still a sharp cutoff just as it gets close to DFW
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#449 Postby gpsnowman » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:50 am

Looks like another freeze this morning, currently 32 at DFW. Makes it 8 for the season I believe.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#450 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:10 am

Pretty big temp bust over night/this morning. Currently 21.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#451 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:40 am

27 this morning. All models continue to trend colder. Friday may end up struggling to stay above 40 during the afternoon and Saturday could well stay in the 30s all day.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#452 Postby orangeblood » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:47 am

Hmmmmmmm, Very Interesting!!!

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#453 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:47 am

12z NAM dumps a ton of snow in NW Texas including WF. DFW ends the run with a little backside snow. It's the coldest run yet. Much of it is the ULL pulling 850s down by the upper dynamics of trowal.

We just need this storm to kick out a little further south and really drag down the cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#454 Postby Jarodm12 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:50 am

Pretty freaking powerful trowal on the NAM time to get out the winter gear !
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#455 Postby orangeblood » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:50 am

Ntxw wrote:12z NAM dumps a ton of snow in NW Texas including WF. DFW ends the run with a little backside on the run. It's the coldest run yet. Much of it is the ULL pulling 850s down by the upper dynamics of trowal.


Yep, plenty cold enough at 850 on this run
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#456 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:52 am

orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:12z NAM dumps a ton of snow in NW Texas including WF. DFW ends the run with a little backside on the run. It's the coldest run yet. Much of it is the ULL pulling 850s down by the upper dynamics of trowal.


Yep, plenty cold enough at 850 on this run


850s in W and NTX are colder than Oklahoma on that run showing strong cold pocket of the ULL in the deformation band.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#457 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:53 am

Extrapolated (caution lol) the NAM looks incredible beyond 84 hours.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#458 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:53 am

gpsnowman wrote:Looks like another freeze this morning, currently 32 at DFW. Makes it 8 for the season I believe.


Looks like the airport got down to 31, surprising how many low bust we seen during this stretch.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#459 Postby orangeblood » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:54 am

Ntxw wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:12z NAM dumps a ton of snow in NW Texas including WF. DFW ends the run with a little backside on the run. It's the coldest run yet. Much of it is the ULL pulling 850s down by the upper dynamics of trowal.


Yep, plenty cold enough at 850 on this run


850s in W and NTX are colder than Oklahoma on that run showing strong cold pocket of the ULL in the deformation band.


And notice barely a flake in Kansas when Global Ops even most ensembles were hammering Kansas just a few days ago :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#460 Postby Jarodm12 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:58 am

Just to add the 6z RGEM came in colder than the NAM so even the NAM is not the coldest guidance , 12z is coming in now!
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