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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#361 Postby wxman57 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:47 pm

Euro and GFS (12Z) have the snow confined to the TX Panhandle. Nothing to indicate any accumulations into the D-FW area. Both models have 1-3" of rain in the D-FW area Fri/Sat. Main threat for most of TX is heavy rain.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#362 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:48 pm

Haris wrote:Wettest euro yet. 5” here


Yeah the Euro is definitely a lot further south with the most rainfall.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#363 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:09 pm

Most models now form the surface low inland before tracking it due east. This keeps the coldest air to our north. We really need the shortwave to dig a bit more before turning NE. If this comes in south of Big Bend we would be in a much better position. We are still well within the margin for error for this event shift everything 100 miles or preferably a bit more SE and the outcome is wildly different.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#364 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:18 pm

If this doesn't pan out, what about the next one I think I saw mentioned? 10 days out, Thursday 13 thereabouts?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#365 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:21 pm

Lagreeneyes03 wrote:If this doesn't pan out, what about the next one I think I saw mentioned? 10 days out, Thursday 13 thereabouts?

Likely, no cold air left for that one, but still keep a small eye on it. Should be another round of good rain at the least.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#366 Postby dhweather » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:58 pm

Lagreeneyes03 wrote:If this doesn't pan out, what about the next one I think I saw mentioned? 10 days out, Thursday 13 thereabouts?



In the world of models, there's always something two weeks out. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#367 Postby Captmorg70 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:11 pm

So the NAM is just starting to get into this time frame. What’s the chances it’s temps are closer to what we’ll actually see compared to GFS/EURO?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#368 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:47 pm

Nothing special about the 84H 18Z NAM though surface is a touch colder. Tomorrow it will begin to enter its wheelhouse on this as it often can pick up the little nuances that matter in these situations. RGEM will also be interesting once we enter its range.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#369 Postby CaptinCrunch » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:06 pm

Whether or not any winter precip comes with this system we need the rain, we need the soil mositure content up. This will add in holding down ground temps as we move along this winter.

As for the system, only thing I can see happening is a small burst of wet snow on the backend of the system as it pushes east from NTX. Hopefully there will be enough sub freezing air in the upper levels that it could get pulled down far enough to alow for a brief change over Saturday morning.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#370 Postby Haris » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:06 pm

Gfs now has also 5-6” . This is serious :double:

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#371 Postby Cerlin » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:33 pm

What’s everyone’s confidence on DFW snow with this system? Based on the inconsistency of models thus far and the gradual shift towards just rain, mine’s fairly low, but I’m curious what y’all think...
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#372 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:51 pm

Pretty good south shift by the WPC.

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#373 Postby OKMet83 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:30 pm

At this time it looks like a pretty solid rain down into Central/South TX... Areas N Of DFW still need to be watched IMO! It's NOT over yet.. I have said it time and time again but models do very poorly with shallow cold air!
Another reason I'm not done with this just yet is all the snow pack 43% of the country covered in snow a lot of that directly to our north in the Central/Northern Plains states (Thus the cold air coming will not be moderating as much)
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#374 Postby orangeblood » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:51 pm

Even if we miss out this time around...Euro weeklies are very impressive beyond mid month into January - cold and snowy for the southern half of the lower 48
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#375 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:54 pm

Cerlin wrote:What’s everyone’s confidence on DFW snow with this system? Based on the inconsistency of models thus far and the gradual shift towards just rain, mine’s fairly low, but I’m curious what y’all think...


I'm pretty much of the mindset that I'll believe it when i see it but I've been trying to withhold judgment til the hi res models start

The globals are known to struggle with cold air which is a reason to be hopeful but i just dunno if it'll be cold enough
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#376 Postby gboudx » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:26 pm

Brent wrote:
Cerlin wrote:What’s everyone’s confidence on DFW snow with this system? Based on the inconsistency of models thus far and the gradual shift towards just rain, mine’s fairly low, but I’m curious what y’all think...


I'm pretty much of the mindset that I'll believe it when i see it but I've been trying to withhold judgment til the hi res models start

The globals are known to struggle with cold air which is a reason to be hopeful but i just dunno if it'll be cold enough


This is my mindset no matter what. Seen too many “sure bets” become rain due to an unforeseen warm layer. And some “not much” over perform in a good way.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#377 Postby DonWrk » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:36 pm

McCauley is for sure a no go on the snow. Go ahead and write it off...
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#378 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:38 pm

gboudx wrote:
Brent wrote:
Cerlin wrote:What’s everyone’s confidence on DFW snow with this system? Based on the inconsistency of models thus far and the gradual shift towards just rain, mine’s fairly low, but I’m curious what y’all think...


I'm pretty much of the mindset that I'll believe it when i see it but I've been trying to withhold judgment til the hi res models start

The globals are known to struggle with cold air which is a reason to be hopeful but i just dunno if it'll be cold enough


This is my mindset no matter what. Seen too many “sure bets” become rain due to an unforeseen warm layer. And some “not much” over perform in a good way.


Maybe some day Dallas will get a snowstorm that is obvious but i mean even the foot in 2010 was a surprise lol

I just hope were not waiting too long for another threat if this one is done
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#379 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:39 pm

DonWrk wrote:McCauley is for sure a no go on the snow. Go ahead and write it off...

It likey is a no go apart for some wet flakes at the end. Though Steve's method is good it is far from infallible especially at this range.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#380 Postby DonWrk » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:41 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:
DonWrk wrote:McCauley is for sure a no go on the snow. Go ahead and write it off...

It likey is a no go apart for some wet flakes at the end. Though Steve's method is good it is far from infallible especially at this range.



Seems like I’m always rooting against Steve and his stat method...
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