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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#481 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:45 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:GFS says let me plow through this roadblock because why not...

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It's hard to take the GFS seriously after hour 150 because of the way it handles the ridge. imo
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#482 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:45 pm

its just weak steering currents..

big ridge coming in from west.. should do a loop.. .. should .. lol
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#483 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:49 pm

The end of this GFS run is one of the strangest things I've ever seen in twenty years of model watching. :eek: :lol:
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#484 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:50 pm

Yep HUGE shift west by the GFS. Why is it that the UKMET sometimes leads the pack with sniffing out a major forecast track change?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#485 Postby galaxy401 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:51 pm

Just when it looked like there was an agreement on a recurve, the GFS throws a softball at us.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#486 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:55 pm

gatorcane wrote:Yep HUGE shift west by the GFS. Why is it that the UKMET sometimes leads the pack with sniffing out a major forecast track change?

It is very interesting. I could almost see this GFS shift coming after what the UK did.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#487 Postby ava_ati » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:55 pm

galaxy401 wrote:Just when it looked like there was an agreement on a recurve, the GFS throws a softball at us.


I've learned to trust the UKMET after Matthew and Irma. Until it shows a recurve I'm expecting the worst.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#488 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:01 pm

Last few frames...

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Yeah, I gave up after that.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#489 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:02 pm

Wow...the end of that GFS run gave Bermuda the ride of their life. They had stuff swirling all around them.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#490 Postby AnnularCane » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:11 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:GFS says let me plow through this roadblock because why not...

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So Florence misses a weakness but plows through a ridge? :lol:
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#491 Postby hohnywx » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:16 pm

gatorcane wrote:Yep HUGE shift west by the GFS. Why is it that the UKMET sometimes leads the pack with sniffing out a major forecast track change?


I believe model statistics show that the UKMet performs second-best worldwide (after the Euro). It is a highly skilled model.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#492 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:18 pm

AnnularCane wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:GFS says let me plow through this roadblock because why not...

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So Florence misses a weakness but plows through a ridge? :lol:

If the GFS was doing the movement right to the ridge trough positions it would probably be a Florida hurricane, Anyone from Miami to Nova Scotia need to keep tabs on this for sure
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#493 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:19 pm

was almost a loop..
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#494 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:20 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Last few frames...

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Yeah, I gave up after that.

Yep after 192hrs the model becomes trash
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#495 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:21 pm

GFS Prototype is running...
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#496 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:31 pm

18% GFS ensembles have a significant group targeting SE US coastline:

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#497 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:33 pm

GFS soundings show east-northeasterlies in the mid levels while Florence is passing south of Bermuda, which would tend to support a southwest motion (think Irma) like the UKMET shows. Not sure why the GFS doesn't indicate it. Probably the same reason the GFS sends the hurricane directly into the ridge.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#498 Postby hohnywx » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:46 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:GFS soundings show east-northeasterlies in the mid levels while Florence is passing south of Bermuda, which would tend to support a southwest motion (think Irma) like the UKMET shows. Not sure why the GFS doesn't indicate it. Probably the same reason the GFS sends the hurricane directly into the ridge.


The GFS "truncates" after 180 hours, so the model can be prone to doing some funky things in that time frame.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#499 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:51 pm

hohnywx wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:GFS soundings show east-northeasterlies in the mid levels while Florence is passing south of Bermuda, which would tend to support a southwest motion (think Irma) like the UKMET shows. Not sure why the GFS doesn't indicate it. Probably the same reason the GFS sends the hurricane directly into the ridge.


The GFS "truncates" after 180 hours, so the model can be prone to doing some funky things in that time frame.

It used to many years ago now it truncates after 240 hrs or 10 days
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#500 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:52 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:GFS soundings show east-northeasterlies in the mid levels while Florence is passing south of Bermuda, which would tend to support a southwest motion (think Irma) like the UKMET shows. Not sure why the GFS doesn't indicate it. Probably the same reason the GFS sends the hurricane directly into the ridge.


Can you post an image of the UKMeT and the SW motion it shows?


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