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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#301 Postby chaser1 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:39 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:GFS somehow believing this will strengthen to a Cat 2 in 18 hours.


You know, the FV3-GFS was supposed to be an upgrade to the GFS itself and on a couple circumstances there forecast solutions have varied. Right now though? Not much; both carrying Florence generally WNW up to 72 hours and then both make a pronounced pole-ward turn. Looking at the really dry air to the immediate west that Florence seems on the verge of digesting for dinner tonight, I don't see how this storm is going to maintain itself beyond perhaps a shallow depression. Warmer SST's be damned, I think Florence is about to get a case of anemia by this evening. I would think that a more westward motion will ensue from that point on for at least a couple days. Maybe the Canadian, the UK and EURO are somehow seeing the dryer air potentially becoming ingested into the circulation while the GFS does not hence their mid term forecast maintains a greater westward bias for a less vertically stacked system.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#302 Postby Blown Away » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:25 pm

12z Euro way East of 00z... Looking more fishy...
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#303 Postby RL3AO » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:27 pm

Blown Away wrote:12z Euro way East of 00z... Looking more fishy...


It's already more organized that the last few runs of the Euro had it. If I had to bet, I'd guess it goes between Bermuda and the East Coast. But we still have plenty of runs to see the windshield wipers at work.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#304 Postby SFLcane » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:32 pm

Blown Away wrote:12z Euro way East of 00z... Looking more fishy...


Indeed most 12z guidance has shifted north thankfully. Looking well organized this afternoon
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#305 Postby LarryWx » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:46 pm

No, the 12Z Euro is threatening to the US.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#306 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:51 pm

The 12z ECMWF track just seems impossible to me. I understand why it moves like it does, but to go W with even a bit of a southerly component from Bermuda's latitude just doesn't seem realistic. This is starting to look the GFS might verify on the track.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#307 Postby storm4u » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:51 pm

LarryWx wrote:No, the 12Z Euro is threatening to the US.


Definitely will be a east coast hit this run
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#308 Postby Blown Away » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:52 pm

LarryWx wrote:No, the 12Z Euro is threatening to the US.


Crazy, I spoke to soon. Florence takes hard left turn SE of Bermuda @144 hrs and beelines towards Carolinas through 216 hrs. Wow.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#309 Postby lando » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:54 pm

As the mods like to say, please post graphics of these runs to accompany chat! I’d like to see what y’all are talking about
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#310 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:55 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:The 12z ECMWF track just seems impossible to me. I understand why it moves like it does, but to go W with even a bit of a southerly component from Bermuda's latitude just doesn't seem realistic. This is starting to look the GFS might verify on the track.

I still feel like the model is out to lunch. Almost every other model shows an east coast threat while the GFS is recurving hundreds of miles away from land.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#311 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:56 pm

lando wrote:As the mods like to say, please post graphics of these runs to accompany chat! I’d like to see what y’all are talking about


Here is a closer look

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#312 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:58 pm

Here is how the Euro ends at 240hrs. It has Florence moving WSW towards North Florida .

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#313 Postby Highteeld » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:59 pm

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If Florence stays strong, this would be a good opening for an OTS route
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#314 Postby pgoss11 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:59 pm

Has north Florida ever had a Hurricane strike from the Northeast? Just weird.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#315 Postby toad strangler » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:59 pm

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#316 Postby Blown Away » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:00 pm

lando wrote:As the mods like to say, please post graphics of these runs to accompany chat! I’d like to see what y’all are talking about


Sorry can't post pics from phone. Here you go.

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HP overhead at 244...
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#317 Postby lando » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:02 pm

No worries guys thanks for posting pics! I’m in Jacksonville and this was what I was concerned about.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#318 Postby fox13weather » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:03 pm

pgoss11 wrote:Has north Florida ever had a Hurricane strike from the Northeast? Just weird.


It's a 240 hour forecast. Yesterday it was Chesapeake. Today it is North Florida. Tonight's run will be somewhere else. It's how it works 10 days out.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#319 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:06 pm

I call shenanigans on the ECMWF, the only way I could see a storm threaten both Bermuda and Florida in that order would be if the Earth started spinning backwards. OTS is still very much on the table here and is looking more likely.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#320 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:07 pm

This run of the Euro shows a landfall between Savannah and Daytona Beach, don’t want nor need

Is it me or is the Euro close to an Andrew 1992 scenario except about 200 to 250miles farther north
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