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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5681 Postby Cpv17 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:41 am

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Ntxw wrote::uarrow: The southern wave comes through S Texas and snows again in Austin. The snow capital of Texas with a mix in SA


Isn’t the Austin area long due for some snow though? I often hear everyone on here refer to them as the freezing drizzle capital of TX or something like that. I know they got some back in early December, but before that when was the last time they actually had measurable snowfall?

Jan 2014. .2" snow. Last inch was on feb 2011


Thanks, for some reason I thought it was way longer than that lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5682 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:43 am

Also Euro is a very cold stretch. Nearly 60 hours below freezing at DFW which is from midnight Tuesday through midday Thursday. Houston and Austin briefly gets above freezing Weds afternoon into the mid and upper 30s but otherwise comparable.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5683 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:48 am

Equally as impressive the northeast quarter of Texas whatever snow falls, the depth on the Euro remains stable until Thursday. Which means whatever snow you get will probably stick some around for awhile. Likely because it stays below freezing for that region.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5684 Postby KeriCarter » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:50 am

Ntxw wrote:Euro is coming in wetter for DFW with widespread 1" snowfall across the metroplex. Very cold.

It looks lot like the CMC with bullseye around Texarkana


WhooooHooooo! While I am not a fan of cold weather at all, if it’s going to be cold the kids should at least get to play in the snow. :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5685 Postby DFWLady » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:05 am

:cold: I'm super excited!!! So are my kiddos! Here's hoping we get enough in DFW that they can play in it some!
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5686 Postby JDawg512 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:27 am

Haris wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Ntxw wrote::uarrow: The southern wave comes through S Texas and snows again in Austin. The snow capital of Texas with a mix in SA


Isn’t the Austin area long due for some snow though? I often hear everyone on here refer to them as the freezing drizzle capital of TX or something like that. I know they got some back in early December, but before that when was the last time they actually had measurable snowfall?

Jan 2014. .2" snow. Last inch was on feb 2011



And I think 2014 only certain locations had a little snow, nothing fell here at the Rain Cave just a few blocks from S.Austin Hospital in terms of snow that year. 2011 was the last significant area wide.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5687 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:26 am

Travel will be rough from Monday evening through Thursday and possibly through Friday if Thursday produces.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5688 Postby EnnisTx » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:51 am

The quite before the storm? Or is it that all the normal folks are sleeping in like I should have...

Crickets chirping in the background...
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5689 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:53 am

EnnisTx wrote:The quite before the storm? Or is it that all the normal folks are sleeping in like I should have...

Crickets chirping in the background...

Things will likely really get active here after lunch. Lazy Sunday morning for most ahead of what looks to be a crazy week of snow and cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5690 Postby EnnisTx » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:37 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:
EnnisTx wrote:The quite before the storm? Or is it that all the normal folks are sleeping in like I should have...

Crickets chirping in the background...

Things will likely really get active here after lunch. Lazy Sunday morning for most ahead of what looks to be a crazy week of snow and cold.


I agree, this board will be in fast forward mode shortly as the winter weather event gets closer and amount of precipitation becomes more evident.

I believe that quite a few of us will be in for a nice surprise when it's all said and done.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5691 Postby EnnisTx » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:46 am

It's looking like some of the West and Northwestern parts of North Texas may miss out or see little from this event.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5692 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:23 am

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5693 Postby orangeblood » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:25 am

EnnisTx wrote:It's looking like some of the West and Northwestern parts of North Texas may miss out or see little from this event.


Yes, the trends have been further south...DFW could possibly only get a few flakes. At this time, the moderate/heavy precip appears south of I-20
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5694 Postby iorange55 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:25 am

I don’t know...I’m getting nervous. Models keep shifting the precip south. Both on Tuesday and Thursday. I swear, this winter has been one giant tease for DFW.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5695 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:28 am

Yes there is a risk it happens too far south for DFW. Past couple of NAM runs have not been as wet as the globals in general.

It's favoring lift in MS and TN valleys rather than TX
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5696 Postby iorange55 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:29 am

Ntxw wrote:Yes there is a risk it happens too far south for DFW. Past couple of NAM runs have not been as wet as the globals in general.


Let’s all hope the CMC is the only sane model currently. (Not likely but it’s all we got!)
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5697 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:30 am

EnnisTx wrote:It's looking like some of the West and Northwestern parts of North Texas may miss out or see little from this event.

Agreed, looking like this will be primarily a DFW and east event though there will likely be light accumulations for all of NTX.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5698 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:37 am

iorange55 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Yes there is a risk it happens too far south for DFW. Past couple of NAM runs have not been as wet as the globals in general.


Let’s all hope the CMC is the only sane model currently. (Not likely but it’s all we got!)


Nam's runs have been unfavorable for TX as a whole. More lift a few thousand miles away in states east northeast
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5699 Postby utweather » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:40 am

JDawg512 wrote:
Haris wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Isn’t the Austin area long due for some snow though? I often hear everyone on here refer to them as the freezing drizzle capital of TX or something like that. I know they got some back in early December, but before that when was the last time they actually had measurable snowfall?

Jan 2014. .2" snow. Last inch was on feb 2011



And I think 2014 only certain locations had a little snow, nothing fell here at the Rain Cave just a few blocks from S.Austin Hospital in terms of snow that year. 2011 was the last significant area wide.


Actually had a couple inches plus of big wet snow this past December and a light dusting on New Years I heard(I was out of town). This winter has been a real winter this season:-) Cold has been sometimes annoying but it is refreshing to have a season with real frozen precip, lol :-)

Edit: Oops I see you reference the December snow already, yeah before that not much really, mainly just too warm and dry slotted at times over the years.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5700 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:40 am

NWS Corpus Christi on board the Wintry Mix train! What a winter!!!!!

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FXUS64 KCRP 141125
AFDCRP

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Corpus Christi TX
525 AM CST Sun Jan 14 2018

.DISCUSSION...

Updated for 12Z aviation.

&&

.AVIATION...

VFR conditions continue through most of the period with high
pressure shifting southward. Will see onshore flow return today
which will increase moisture and as a result start to bring back
some clouds. By Sunday night could have some MVFR cigs for VCT,
but have kept all other terminals VFR for now.


&&

.PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... /Issued 446 AM CST Sun Jan 14 2018/

SHORT TERM (Today through Monday)...

Went ahead and issued a freeze warning for a few counties this
morning with VCT dropping to 30 degrees and Beeville approaching
freezing. Temperatures should return to above freezing by around
8am.

Will stay in a northwest flow aloft for one more day, however as
surface ridge shifts from the Great Lakes southward toward the
Gulf of Mexico, surface winds will become more southeasterly and
bring a gradual increase in moisture to the area. We could start
to see clouds today, but the most notable change will be much
warmer low temperatures tonight. Expect most locations to only
fall into the 40s...with portions of the coastal bend likely in
the lower 50s. Expect highs today warmer than yesterday...mainly
in the 60s. By monday, a few locations may warm into the 70s with
warmer 850mb temps. Expect light winds today, but a bit breezier
Monday as the pressure gradient increases between high pressure in
the Gulf and a cold front moving into North Texas.

LONG TERM (Monday Night through Saturday Night)...

WINTRY MIX POSSIBLE TUESDAY NIGHT ACROSS MUCH OF SOUTH TEXAS

No need to bury the lead here, looking like a mess of a forecast
and potential impacts beginning late Tuesday night into Wednesday
morning across much of South Texas with a light icing event. While
not completely confident, latest trends in the strength of the mid-
level trough driving the arctic front through with cold air sweeping
through quicker, does help to increase confidence in the event.

That being said, everything does hinge upon sub-freezing air, either
advected in from the north behind the front late Tuesday night, or
by the wet bulb effect. Drier boundary layer air does filter in
behind the front throughout the evening hours but we continue to see
isentropic lift occur along the 290K layer so light precipitation is
still expected well behind the front. This is where things get
tricky. Model soundings do show a substantial warm nose around 5kft,
GFS/NAM, with a lesser pronounced warm nose on the EC/GGEM though
its still there, which would allow near complete melting of any
frozen precipitation. Depending on the depth of the sub-freezing
temperatures in the boundary layer we could either see a liquid or
re-freezing of the liquid (sleet) reach the ground. We introduced a
large area of -FZRA/IP into the grids for the overnight Tuesday time
period. There is a possibility that we could see a light ice
accumulation early Wednesday morning making for treacherous travel
conditions, especially on area bridges and overpasses. Wind chills
will also be a concern as they drop into the teens to low-20s in a
lot of places.


We slowly warm during the day Wednesday to transition back over to
all liquid/rain by late morning though a majority of the
precipitation should be confined across the south and coastal areas
with coastal troughing developing. While we don`t completely dry
out, at least that is not what we expect at this time, another mid-
level shortwave trough of low pressure ejects out of West Texas and
the coastal troughing moves back inland on Thursday, thus rain
chances increases. As the coastal trough moves inland winds shift
around to the east allowing temperatures to warm a bit but still
remain below average. We went a little below guidance across the Rio
Grande Plains as we don`t think the easterly winds get there and
they keep more of a northeast surface flow helping to maintain a
weak cold-air damming setup.

The shortwave trough of low pressure moves east by early Friday and
we truly begin to dry out from west to east during the morning.
Temperatures warm nicely back towards average though we should fall
short by a couple degrees. Saturday looks dry as well and warmer as
better return flow develops with shortwave ridging moving off to the
east.
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