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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5621 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:43 pm

Just got home. Plotted the best ECMWF 12Z soundings (most moisture & possible precip) for DFW for Tuesday's and Thursday's events. Neither looks good for much precip in the DFW area, I'm afraid. Let me take a look at Austin's projected soundings. BRB...

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5622 Postby Texas Snow » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:53 pm

“You are not the Snow Mizer we are looking for.”
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5623 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:56 pm

Yeah but just last week Wxman Snow Miser said it would be too dry for any frozen precip in DFW for the forseeable future..and now look. The models changed, and now It's almost full panic mode out in public.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5624 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:57 pm

Well, it's clear that the ECMWF operational run is not your friend if you're in Austin. These are the best two soundings I could pull off the 12Z ECMWF. Not very good. Perhaps some mid-level precip, but there's a warm nose on Tuesday.

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5625 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:59 pm

Texas Snow wrote:“You are not the Snow Mizer we are looking for.”


I was just reporting the facts. That's not my forecast, it's just ECMWF soundings. I don't think that the Euro did too well with the Dec. 8th snow event. Probably best to start looking at the 3km and 12km NAM and WRF for Tuesday's event.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5626 Postby Texas Snow » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:04 pm

NAM not too impressive so far.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5627 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:09 pm

Texas Snow wrote:NAM not too impressive so far.


Here is the last 5 NAM 12km trends for midnight Mon-Tues. It's going to the globals gradually. Remember it's wheelbarrow is 48hrs or under. Above that it's generally treated similar to long range GFS. You can see pretty clear it is doing what the globals did for days, started out long range with little moisture but lifts north each run thereafter

0Z runs will be coming in the next hour and half or so for the NAM, an hour later for the GFS and CMC will start

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5628 Postby South Texas Storms » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:19 pm

Other models to watch closely like wxman mentioned are the Texas Tech WRF (goes out to 60 hours) and the NMM and ARW WRF models (goes out to 48 hours).

These models (along with the NAM) handled the December snow event pretty well.

TX Tech WRF model Link: http://www.atmo.ttu.edu/bancell/real_time_WRF/ttuwrfhome.php?dmn=2km&prm=sfc_dbz&run=0

ARW WRF model link: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=wrf-arw&region=scus&pkg=ref_frzn&runtime=2018011312&fh=1
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5629 Postby Haris » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:42 pm

Sorry, I just joined yesterday. How do we upload a pic or gif?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5630 Postby Texas Snow » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:50 pm

You need an account like photobucket, something you can link to from any web browser. You can’t upload from your desktop. Then click the IMG button next to the font types etc. paste the weblink to the photo between the brackets that the IMG button will insert for you. If that last part doesn’t make sense, start replying to my message and click that button and you will see what it does. Your direct link to the photo will go in between the brackets.

Use the preview to see if it worked. Voila.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5631 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:01 pm

Neither the 12km NAM nor the EC is indicating very much moisture for the trof to work with on Tuesday. To get really significant winter weather accumulations, you really need a good moisture supply, like a coastal low (west Gulf low). That's what we had on Dec. 8th.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5632 Postby missygirl810 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:03 pm

wxman57 wrote:Neither the 12km NAM nor the EC is indicating very much moisture for the trof to work with on Tuesday. To get really significant winter weather accumulations, you really need a good moisture supply, like a coastal low (west Gulf low). That's what we had on Dec. 8th.


For your area or just in general?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5633 Postby TexasF6 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:08 pm

WxMan, I see a magnificent moisture plume approaching the west coast on WV imagery. I think gfs is on to it....
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5634 Postby Quixotic » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:19 pm

I didn’t want to be the gloom and doom guy but since others are saying similar things, I just don’t see how we get much precipitation on Monday night. If the front is as strong as they say, it will dry out the lower levels. If it eases through, I can see the upglide. That’s been my experience here anyways. Thursday looks more promising. This is a NTex perspective.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5635 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:43 pm

0z NAM keeps the snow around NTX longer in another round tuesday like the Canadian. Several inches S/Se of DFW. Each NAM run is getting wetter and more northward. Still not yet within its 48h range
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5636 Postby EnnisTx » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:47 pm

Ntxw wrote:0z NAM keeps the snow around NTX longer in another round tuesday like the Canadian. Several inches S/Se of DFW. Each NAM run is getting wetter and more northward. Still not yet within its 48h range


That's what I'm seeing, at least a couple inches of snow across the DFW area.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5637 Postby TexasF6 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:47 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5638 Postby Theepicman116 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:53 pm

I get all happy and now Y'all are saying "Oh, no snow." Stop playing with my emotions and hope Y'all.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5639 Postby Haris » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:07 pm

NAM has trended ALOT wetter folks for Austin ! It shows 17 hours of freezing rain and sleet with some snow to end the event
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5640 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:12 pm

Wow, that’s some serious widespread ice/snow totals across the state on that run of the NAM.

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