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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5001 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:37 pm

To add the forecast and idea of DFW may push 70 tomorrow (Weds) some days ago, poofed. About 10 degrees colder than what it looked like.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5002 Postby gboudx » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:51 pm

I saw you guys posting about a potential wintry storm next week. Today on NBC5, met Rick Mitchell showed a CPC forecast of above average temps next week instead.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5003 Postby EnnisTx » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:59 pm

:uarrow: let's hope the CMC verifies and brings a nice snow across Noth Texas.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5004 Postby Brent » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:56 pm

Saw some snow on the ground in Chicago today it hasnt all melted yet
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5005 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:22 pm

00z GFS takes a step towards the Euro but is still more progressive with the over all pattern. However, this is a big improvement over 18z

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5006 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:44 pm

bubba hotep wrote:00z GFS takes a step towards the Euro but is still more progressive with the over all pattern. However, this is a big improvement over 18z
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... cus_26.png


Definitely a step in the right direction from the 18z.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5007 Postby hamburgerman7070 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:28 am

bubba hotep wrote:00z GFS takes a step towards the Euro but is still more progressive with the over all pattern. However, this is a big improvement over 18z

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... cus_26.png


Bubba, I'm no expert like yourself, but like u said, the pattern is progressive. Trough appears still too far east. Euro is the outlier unfortunately unless things dramatically change. Seems like the euro has lost it's accuracy compared to years ago before upgrade.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5008 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:30 am

00z GFS reloads Canada with cold air and a near 1050mb high at the end of the run.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5009 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:32 am

hamburgerman7070 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:00z GFS takes a step towards the Euro but is still more progressive with the over all pattern. However, this is a big improvement over 18z

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... cus_26.png


Bubba, I'm no expert like yourself, but like u said, the pattern is progressive. Trough appears still too far east. Euro is the outlier unfortunately unless things dramatically change. Seems like the euro has lost it's accuracy compared to years ago before upgrade.


I believe the PNA is to blame. The east coast is having a dream winter season.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5010 Postby hamburgerman7070 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:54 am

You are right but it's supposed to drop but how can we get cold and stormy with pna negative? I'm confused.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5011 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:01 am

hamburgerman7070 wrote:
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hamburgerman7070 wrote:
Bubba, I'm no expert like yourself, but like u said, the pattern is progressive. Trough appears still too far east. Euro is the outlier unfortunately unless things dramatically change. Seems like the euro has lost it's accuracy compared to years ago before upgrade.


I believe the PNA is to blame. The east coast is having a dream winter season.


You are right but it's supposed to drop but how can we get cold and stormy with pna negative? I'm confused.


Yeah I don’t have the knowledge to answer that question lol but I think even if the PNA was neutral we’d have a much better chance at getting in on some fun.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5012 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:15 am

Interesting run of the Euro. Shows several days of snow and ice across the northern half of the state next week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5013 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:09 am

hamburgerman7070 wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
hamburgerman7070 wrote:
Bubba, I'm no expert like yourself, but like u said, the pattern is progressive. Trough appears still too far east. Euro is the outlier unfortunately unless things dramatically change. Seems like the euro has lost it's accuracy compared to years ago before upgrade.


I believe the PNA is to blame. The east coast is having a dream winter season.


You are right but it's supposed to drop but how can we get cold and stormy with pna negative? I'm confused.

A positive PNA means a ridge over the western US with NW flow over our area and an eastern trough.
A neutral PNA puts the the ridge near the west coast putting us at the base of the trough giving us a better chance at storms.
A negative PNA puts the ridge out in the Pacific with troughing over the West and ridging over the East. This puts us in the area where storms will make their move NE. If we have Arctic blocking like this year then the cold would still make it down here though it would not be constant. It would put TX in the position that FL has been in.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5014 Postby gpsnowman » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:38 am

Ntxw wrote:To add the forecast and idea of DFW may push 70 tomorrow (Weds) some days ago, poofed. About 10 degrees colder than what it looked like.

Yep, from 70 to 59 in a couple days. Amazing what a thick cloud deck(or lack thereof) can do to a temperature forecast.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5015 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:04 am

Gfs shows snow in Oklahoma tomorrow night's storm and latest NAM maybe flurries in NTX
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5016 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:08 am

South Texas Storms wrote:Interesting run of the Euro. Shows several days of snow and ice across the northern half of the state next week.


Yeah from Tues, Weds, Thurs off and on ice and snow at DFW
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5017 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:48 am

German ICON model

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5018 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:54 am



Yes! There is a lot of lift with such a strong system! Curious to get into hi res short term guidance. There is a chance this one may sneak up on us
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5019 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:01 am

bubba hotep wrote:German ICON model

NW flow strong shortwave, I'd almost be surprised if it doesn't produce flurries in the year of the NTX flurry.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#5020 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:01 am

gpsnowman wrote:
Ntxw wrote:To add the forecast and idea of DFW may push 70 tomorrow (Weds) some days ago, poofed. About 10 degrees colder than what it looked like.

Yep, from 70 to 59 in a couple days. Amazing what a thick cloud deck(or lack thereof) can do to a temperature forecast.


It may not seem a lot 55-60 (forecast is now mid 50s) but that is about normal. What it does is cut the daily departure from +15-20F on the highs down to 0-5F. Based on the coming forecast January is looking to end below normal overall! Question now is can we get a sub 40F monthly average. Big cold departures to begin the month has set up all of this.

Why is sub 40 important? It usually means you have a shot at top 10 coldest month for that month, considerable in any winter month
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