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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#401 Postby Ntxw » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:36 pm

starsfan65 wrote:When is the 0z GFS run?


The run just started. It will finish within the next hour and a half. Middle of next week and later will be within the next hour or so.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#402 Postby starsfan65 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:39 pm

Ntxw wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:When is the 0z GFS run?


The run just started. It will finish within the next hour and a half. Middle of next week and later will be within the next hour or so.
I hope that 18z run was a bad run.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#403 Postby Brent » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:14 pm

snowing in Mexico on the 0z GFS while DFW Is in the mid 40s

Can't make this up

the 540 line is near Austin with afternoon highs near normal
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#404 Postby Ntxw » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:16 pm

GFS has thickness in the 530s, 850s below 0C while the surface is 50s :lol:. 1047mb high and all higher surface heights to Mexico. It's funny. Canadian is chilly with a hard freeze/
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#405 Postby spencer817 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:16 pm

Brent wrote:snowing in Mexico on the 0z GFS while DFW Is in the mid 40s

Can't make this up


Not looking good, 18z mightve started a bad trend.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#406 Postby spencer817 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:17 pm

Ntxw wrote:GFS has thickness in the 530s, 850s below 0C while the surface is 50s :lol:. 1047mb high and all higher surface heights to Mexico. It's funny. Canadian is chilly with a hard freeze/


Could the CMC be right for once? :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#407 Postby Brent » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:18 pm

spencer817 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:GFS has thickness in the 530s, 850s below 0C while the surface is 50s :lol:. 1047mb high and all higher surface heights to Mexico. It's funny. Canadian is chilly with a hard freeze/


Could the CMC be right for once? :D


its usually way too cold in my experience

but maybe I guess lol

I'm having a hard time buying the GFS though... it can't snow in Mexico and be 45 here lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#408 Postby Ntxw » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:18 pm

spencer817 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:GFS has thickness in the 530s, 850s below 0C while the surface is 50s :lol:. 1047mb high and all higher surface heights to Mexico. It's funny. Canadian is chilly with a hard freeze/


Could the CMC be right for once? :D


Not sure but I've always stood by the fact the colder pattern would yield a good freeze. Like I said earlier, we got close with much less with warmer climo the past two months. The only thing that would prevent a freeze from CAA like that would be clouds and rain, but that would keep daytime temps colder.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#409 Postby spencer817 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:22 pm

Brent wrote:
spencer817 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:GFS has thickness in the 530s, 850s below 0C while the surface is 50s :lol:. 1047mb high and all higher surface heights to Mexico. It's funny. Canadian is chilly with a hard freeze/


Could the CMC be right for once? :D


its usually way too cold in my experience

but maybe I guess lol

I'm having a hard time buying the GFS though... it can't snow in Mexico and be 45 here lol

Exactly, that would only happen on the CMC!
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#410 Postby spencer817 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:23 pm

Meanwhile, the CMC keeps getting colder. Has us even in the teens one morning!
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#411 Postby Quixotic » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:23 pm

I wouldn’t fret yet. Most of the ensembles show a retrograding trough from the Midwest to the plains. Also, no matter the year, there’s always a good arctic breakout for Nina years in December.....even last year...
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#412 Postby Brent » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:24 pm

a foot of snow in Mexico on the GFS

:roflmao:

The CMC has over 20 inches in Mexico!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#413 Postby spencer817 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:26 pm

Quixotic wrote:I wouldn’t fret yet. Most of the ensembles show a retrograding trough from the Midwest to the plains. Also, no matter the year, there’s always a good arctic breakout for Nina years in December.....even last year...


Wonder of the upgrade the CMC got a couple of weeks ago might help it (and us) for this pattern. IT's far fetched, but it's stayed somewhat consistent.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#414 Postby Brent » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:32 pm

What even

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#415 Postby Quixotic » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:33 pm

spencer817 wrote:
Quixotic wrote:I wouldn’t fret yet. Most of the ensembles show a retrograding trough from the Midwest to the plains. Also, no matter the year, there’s always a good arctic breakout for Nina years in December.....even last year...


Wonder of the upgrade the CMC got a couple of weeks ago might help it (and us) for this pattern. IT's far fetched, but it's stayed somewhat consistent.


Maybe. The CMC always has a chilly tendency. I’d bet that way now. Even ‘98 and ‘05 which were miserable winters had serious outbreaks in December. We may have to wait a week longer. The run to run inconsistencies generally mean a major pattern change is afoot. Just a matter of when. All the analogs I would take but 2005.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#416 Postby Brent » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:37 pm

snow in SW Arkansas at 234 on the GFS

6 inches of snow in Southern Arkansas at 240 lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#417 Postby spencer817 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:39 pm

This second blast signal has looked better most of the runs so far.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#418 Postby Brent » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:41 pm

spencer817 wrote:This second blast signal has looked better most of the runs so far.


if that was just a little faster...
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#419 Postby spencer817 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:43 pm

Brent wrote:
spencer817 wrote:This second blast signal has looked better most of the runs so far.


if that was just a little faster...

I want snow as much as the next guy in DFW (Coppell specifically) but the last 2 years make me pessimistic.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#420 Postby Brent » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:44 pm

spencer817 wrote:
Brent wrote:
spencer817 wrote:This second blast signal has looked better most of the runs so far.


if that was just a little faster...

I want snow as much as the next guy in DFW (Coppell specifically) but the last 2 years make me pessimistic.


oh I know, believe me

Even if it was shown on the models I would have a hard time buying it

But at least it looks like there will be plenty to talk about
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