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Re: RE: Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#281 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:31 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
bob rulz wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Wasn't UKMET also the one that forecasted Harvey correctly?


And weren't they also the first model to predict Irma hitting Cuba? I may be wrong, that's why I'm wondering, haha.



That blue line has been deadly accurate lately. It better be wrong this time...Its been the leader of trends with Matt Harvey and Irma. Untill it flips out to sea my shutters stay up.
My shutters are down but staying outside by the windows until late october
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#282 Postby hohnywx » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:38 pm

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NAVGEM has Jose hitting NJ next week.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#283 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:10 pm

12z euro kills it in the mid levels by 72 hours.. keeps it a weak shallow system which is why it likely is out to sea..

I think the models will start trending west if jose continues to be deeper.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#284 Postby plasticup » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:19 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Pretty sure that is 6 runs in a row. The seperation grows between all the models and ukmet.

The thing i just noticed is the ukmet intialized it further ese from the nhc 11am position. Which is where i pegged the center earlier. It has been moving ese for at least 8 hours

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Any insight into why there is such a massive discrepancy?
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#285 Postby Steve » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:22 pm

plasticup wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Pretty sure that is 6 runs in a row. The seperation grows between all the models and ukmet.

The thing i just noticed is the ukmet intialized it further ese from the nhc 11am position. Which is where i pegged the center earlier. It has been moving ese for at least 8 hours

Any insight into why there is such a massive discrepancy?


Yeah. He speculated on the last page that it's initialized farther SE than the NHC and some of the other models.

The thing i just noticed is the ukmet intialized it further ese from the nhc 11am position. Which is where i pegged the center earlier. It has been moving ese for at least 8 hours
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#286 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:23 pm

Steve wrote:
plasticup wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Pretty sure that is 6 runs in a row. The seperation grows between all the models and ukmet.

The thing i just noticed is the ukmet intialized it further ese from the nhc 11am position. Which is where i pegged the center earlier. It has been moving ese for at least 8 hours

Any insight into why there is such a massive discrepancy?


Yeah. He speculated on the last page that it's initialized farther SE than the NHC and some of the other models.

The thing i just noticed is the ukmet intialized it further ese from the nhc 11am position. Which is where i pegged the center earlier. It has been moving ese for at least 8 hours


Also just 2 posts ip.. :uarrow: :uarrow: :cheesy:
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#287 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:28 pm

I think the UKMET may be on to something. :(
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#288 Postby Ken711 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:37 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:I think the UKMET may be on to something. :(


I hope not. We need a break this season after Harvey and Irma.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#289 Postby Ken711 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:38 pm

hohnywx wrote:Image

NAVGEM has Jose hitting NJ next week.


So does the CMC.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#290 Postby txwatcher91 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:49 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:I think the UKMET may be on to something. :(


I think so too. It's hard to get center fixes but my best guess based on visible, it seems this is sliding ESE right now and wrapping up quite nicely. It has that "fist" look to it that many times precedes periods of fast intensification.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#291 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:50 pm

Boy I hope the UKMET is wrong here. We were really pounded by Irma here in SE Florida with so many people out of power and lots of tree damage along with some structural damage here and there. Obviously it could have been a lot worse but another storm so soon would really not be good.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#292 Postby brghteys1216 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:06 pm

According to the chart in this tweet, UKMET even outperformed the NHC official forecast with Irma from 120-36 hours out. Definitely worth noting.

 https://twitter.com/bamwxcom/status/907639590453956609


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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#293 Postby jonj2040 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:16 pm

brghteys1216 wrote:According to the chart in this tweet, UKMET even outperformed the NHC official forecast with Irma from 120-36 hours out. Definitely worth noting.

 https://twitter.com/bamwxcom/status/907639590453956609



On hour 0 some of the models already show error does that mean that they initialized incorrectly?
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#294 Postby shaneomac » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:32 pm

I cant see UK being right this time , its literally every model against it .. but still week away . but i dont see this going into florida but still a long ways to go tho but the likely scenario is out to sea
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#295 Postby hohnywx » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:45 pm

shaneomac wrote:I cant see UK being right this time , its literally every model against it .. but still week away . but i dont see this going into florida but still a long ways to go tho but the likely scenario is out to sea


Be careful with statements like that...we also saw two models come WAY west at 12z (CMC and NAVGEM).
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#296 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:46 pm

And its pretty clear from satellite the shear is not weakening jose. If anything he looks much better amd also not heading straight east. More ese..
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#297 Postby Kazmit » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:47 pm

A bit of an eastward shift today from most of the models.

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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#298 Postby sma10 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:53 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:And its pretty clear from satellite the shear is not weakening jose. If anything he looks much better amd also not heading straight east. More ese..


I guess the short-term trend to watch for over the next 12-18 hours would be if Jose gains an even more pronounced southern motion. If by tomorrow afternoon the system is south of 25N on a S or SSW heading, the UK may be on to something.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#299 Postby hohnywx » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:22 pm

Kazmit wrote:A bit of an eastward shift today from most of the models.

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This is just a map of the GFS ensembles.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#300 Postby txwatcher91 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:45 pm

I wonder if we see the models start shifting more to the west tonight... the center appears to be drifting to the ESE now and not east like most models had shown would happen. Should be interesting to see..
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