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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9841 Postby PandaCitrus » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:18 pm

What is going on and what does this mean for the models? Will the stall allow more time for the trough to break up the ridge and allow Irma to move east sooner than expected?

 https://twitter.com/ChrisSuchanKCTV/status/906363792895987712


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9842 Postby Alyono » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:20 pm

MET OFFICE TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE FOR NORTH-EAST PACIFIC AND ATLANTIC

GLOBAL MODEL DATA TIME 0000UTC 09.09.2017

HURRICANE IRMA ANALYSED POSITION : 22.3N 77.1W

ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL112017

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 09.09.2017 0 22.3N 77.1W 921 97
1200UTC 09.09.2017 12 22.5N 79.2W 940 85
0000UTC 10.09.2017 24 23.0N 80.6W 940 84
1200UTC 10.09.2017 36 23.9N 81.3W 933 83
0000UTC 11.09.2017 48 25.8N 81.8W 922 90
1200UTC 11.09.2017 60 28.3N 82.1W 950 69
0000UTC 12.09.2017 72 31.5N 83.0W 971 55
1200UTC 12.09.2017 84 34.2N 84.8W 992 27
0000UTC 13.09.2017 96 35.9N 87.8W 998 17
1200UTC 13.09.2017 108 35.5N 89.7W 1002 13
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9843 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:20 pm

PandaCitrus wrote:What is going on and what does this mean for the models? Will the stall allow more time for the trough to break up the ridge and allow Irma to move east sooner than expected?

 https://twitter.com/ChrisSuchanKCTV/status/906363792895987712



Did he mean Cuba THEN Florida, or Cuba THAN Florida?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9844 Postby caneman » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:24 pm

Alyono wrote:MET OFFICE TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE FOR NORTH-EAST PACIFIC AND ATLANTIC

GLOBAL MODEL DATA TIME 0000UTC 09.09.2017

HURRICANE IRMA ANALYSED POSITION : 22.3N 77.1W

ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL112017

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 09.09.2017 0 22.3N 77.1W 921 97
1200UTC 09.09.2017 12 22.5N 79.2W 940 85
0000UTC 10.09.2017 24 23.0N 80.6W 940 84
1200UTC 10.09.2017 36 23.9N 81.3W 933 83
0000UTC 11.09.2017 48 25.8N 81.8W 922 90
1200UTC 11.09.2017 60 28.3N 82.1W 950 69
0000UTC 12.09.2017 72 31.5N 83.0W 971 55
1200UTC 12.09.2017 84 34.2N 84.8W 992 27
0000UTC 13.09.2017 96 35.9N 87.8W 998 17
1200UTC 13.09.2017 108 35.5N 89.7W 1002 13


The UKMET takes it up thru Tampa. I assume this has the same data from NOAA?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9845 Postby caneman » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:27 pm

Can someone post a plot map please?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9846 Postby Alyono » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:27 pm

caneman wrote:
Alyono wrote:MET OFFICE TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE FOR NORTH-EAST PACIFIC AND ATLANTIC

GLOBAL MODEL DATA TIME 0000UTC 09.09.2017

HURRICANE IRMA ANALYSED POSITION : 22.3N 77.1W

ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL112017

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 09.09.2017 0 22.3N 77.1W 921 97
1200UTC 09.09.2017 12 22.5N 79.2W 940 85
0000UTC 10.09.2017 24 23.0N 80.6W 940 84
1200UTC 10.09.2017 36 23.9N 81.3W 933 83
0000UTC 11.09.2017 48 25.8N 81.8W 922 90
1200UTC 11.09.2017 60 28.3N 82.1W 950 69
0000UTC 12.09.2017 72 31.5N 83.0W 971 55
1200UTC 12.09.2017 84 34.2N 84.8W 992 27
0000UTC 13.09.2017 96 35.9N 87.8W 998 17
1200UTC 13.09.2017 108 35.5N 89.7W 1002 13


The UKMET takes it up thru Tampa. I assume this has the same data from NOAA?


the data is available to all of the models
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9847 Postby Jevo » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:27 pm

Local SFL Mets mentioning GFS shift

(The original question is if he thinks SE FL will get hurricane force sustained winds)

 https://twitter.com/JohnMoralesNBC6/status/906371229510197253


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9848 Postby joey » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:28 pm

floridasun78 wrote:will rest go east like gfs this cazy hurr to track models



Gfs east sf
Cmc east again back to se fl
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9849 Postby PTPatrick » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:28 pm

U.K. met seems a "smidge" east. Seems to eat less of Cuba, and also a hair more east of key west.
Also has t up to 940 on its Cuba exit and back down to 920 near landfall.

With this set up I could really see the water, the outflow, everything helping her rally for the big finale tomorrow night. It's going to be a long night tomorrow night in the keys and south Florida.

Edit:If she keeps a core
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9850 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:30 pm

Jevo wrote:Local SFL Mets mentioning GFS shift

(The original question is if he thinks SE FL will get hurricane force sustained winds)

 https://twitter.com/JohnMoralesNBC6/status/906371229510197253



wfor weather man saw new gfs too
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9851 Postby caneman » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:31 pm

Jevo wrote:Local SFL Mets mentioning GFS shift

(The original question is if he thinks SE FL will get hurricane force sustained winds)

 https://twitter.com/JohnMoralesNBC6/status/906371229510197253




Doubtful. The GFS has had a terrible right bias with this system. The UKMET model which has been one of the more accurate shows no such thing. We'll see what Euro says. Ukmet is,exactly the same as 12 hours ago when near Tampa
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9852 Postby extraqueso » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:39 pm

PTPatrick wrote:U.K. met seems a "smidge" east. Seems to eat less of Cuba, and also a hair more east of key west.
Also has t up to 940 on its Cuba exit and back down to 920 near landfall.

With this set up I could really see the water, the outflow, everything helping her rally for the big finale tomorrow night. It's going to be a long night tomorrow night in the keys and south Florida.

Edit:If she keeps a core


more like a denouement than a finale
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9853 Postby AtlanticWind » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:41 pm

joey wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:will rest go east like gfs this cazy hurr to track models



Gfs east sf
Cmc east again back to se fl

Where did you get CMC ?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9854 Postby Alyono » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:44 pm

CMC with a HUGE west shift. Looks to be west of key west. Only through 30 hrs has come in, however
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9855 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:44 pm

AtlanticWind wrote:
joey wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:will rest go east like gfs this cazy hurr to track models



Gfs east sf
Cmc east again back to se fl

Where did you get CMC ?

12z take it close to dade here run https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... s=0&ypos=0
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9856 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:47 pm

Alyono wrote:CMC with a HUGE west shift. Looks to be west of key west. Only through 30 hrs has come in, however

i do not that far west but who know
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9857 Postby AtlanticWind » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:47 pm

floridasun78 wrote:
AtlanticWind wrote:
joey wrote:

Gfs east sf
Cmc east again back to se fl

Where did you get CMC ?

12z take it close to dade here run https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... s=0&ypos=0

That's old 12z
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9858 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:48 pm

The CMC is the most bipolar model I've ever seen.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9859 Postby sponger » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:49 pm

floridasun78 wrote:
AtlanticWind wrote:
joey wrote:

Gfs east sf
Cmc east again back to se fl

Where did you get CMC ?

12z take it close to dade here run https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... s=0&ypos=0


I enjoyed that pin balling absurdity! Now up another night waiting on the Euro.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9860 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:49 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:The CMC is the most bipolar model I've ever seen.

you think would go far west? that mean miami see only ts wind if cms right
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