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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#641 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:15 am

A little concerned. ..this went from no development into central america..now trending north...is the gulf open or protected by a ridge once again?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#642 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:19 am

FWIW 6Z NAVGEM came in much weaker
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#643 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:27 am

Alyono wrote:FWIW 6Z NAVGEM came in much weaker

You still follow that model?

Maybe you can give some insite..models this year blow up storms then they all drop them..yet gert became a strong hurricane that the models all had a strung oit mess
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#644 Postby stormlover2013 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:30 am

mmm I have a feeling models won't change much today, will say mexico prob still but who knows.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#645 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:36 am

Ivanhater wrote:
Alyono wrote:FWIW 6Z NAVGEM came in much weaker

You still follow that model?

Maybe you can give some insite..models this year blow up storms then they all drop them..yet gert became a strong hurricane that the models all had a strung oit mess


Not insight on the NAVGEM, but Levi has an early video out that I'm about to watch.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#646 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:45 am

looks like the GFS is back toward dissipation...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#647 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:45 am

Alyono wrote:looks like the GFS is back toward dissipation...


Wow. You never know what the expect from these upgraded models as Avila stated...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#648 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:46 am

Ivanhater wrote:
Alyono wrote:FWIW 6Z NAVGEM came in much weaker

You still follow that model?

Maybe you can give some insite..models this year blow up storms then they all drop them..yet gert became a strong hurricane that the models all had a strung oit mess


I'd rather follow the NAVGEM than the fundamentally flawed GFS
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#649 Postby hd44 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:47 am

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... watl_4.png
Overnight Ecmwf showed dissipation but had it back later on.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#650 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:49 am

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The GFS waaay weaker LoL!




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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#651 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:51 am

Out to 66hrs the 12z GFS is quite Similar to the 00z Euro just a bit faster. Will be interesting to see what this does after the Yucatan.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#652 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:53 am

72hrs GFS opens into a wave....

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#653 Postby SoupBone » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:03 am

WeatherEmperor wrote:72hrs GFS opens into a wave....



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Is it that TUTT that is causing the GFS to think dissipation in 72 hours? Seems like it could interact with that feature right about that time.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#654 Postby MississippiWx » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:04 am

GFS has major issues. Never seen a model so inconsistent.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#655 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:11 am

SoupBone wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:72hrs GFS opens into a wave....



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Is it that TUTT that is causing the GFS to think dissipation in 72 hours? Seems like it could interact with that feature right about that time.



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Possibly. The image above shows the shear forecast at 72hrs


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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#656 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:21 am

TROPICAL STORM HARVEY ANALYSED POSITION : 13.2N 60.2W

ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL092017

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 18.08.2017 0 13.2N 60.2W 1004 38
0000UTC 19.08.2017 12 13.4N 63.6W 1004 32
1200UTC 19.08.2017 24 13.2N 67.1W 1004 34
0000UTC 20.08.2017 36 13.5N 70.8W 1003 33
1200UTC 20.08.2017 48 13.8N 74.5W 1002 38
0000UTC 21.08.2017 60 14.2N 78.5W 998 44
1200UTC 21.08.2017 72 14.8N 82.3W 994 46
0000UTC 22.08.2017 84 15.8N 85.1W 999 44
1200UTC 22.08.2017 96 16.6N 87.9W 997 47
0000UTC 23.08.2017 108 17.1N 89.5W 1000 24
1200UTC 23.08.2017 120 17.7N 91.3W 1002 25
0000UTC 24.08.2017 132 17.7N 93.4W 1004 28
1200UTC 24.08.2017 144 CEASED TRACKING
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#657 Postby hd44 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:29 am

Cmc has weaker troughing than 00z . I think the 00z track on the Euro was not that good.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#658 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:36 am

hd44 wrote:Cmc has weaker troughing than 00z . I think the 00z track on the Euro was not that good.


It was probably a fluke, the long range Euro has been bad at flip-flopping run to run this season.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#659 Postby Cunxi Huang » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:49 am

well, most models agree with a track heading towards the borderline of Honduras and Nicaragua.

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