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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#221 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:20 pm

SFLcane wrote:Way north of the islands on this run should recurve but we'll see.

Not with that ridge on top
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#222 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:21 pm

wow no consistency I know it in the super long range, and nothing has developed. But what a swing from the privous run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#223 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:21 pm

Ridging much stronger this run. I expect no recurve going further into this run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#224 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:22 pm

BLP,

And a strong ridge at that. Will be interesting to see what the ERUO shows later this evening.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#225 Postby blp » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:24 pm

I would not look at the strength of the system. GFS way too inconsistent. Look at the 500mb level for the ridge versus through placement.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#226 Postby blp » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:27 pm

That is a blocking pattern. Has to go west.

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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#227 Postby Alyono » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:28 pm

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 108 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+108 : 15.4N 63.3W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 18.08.2017 108 15.4N 63.3W 1008 29
0000UTC 19.08.2017 120 15.2N 67.7W 1007 28
1200UTC 19.08.2017 132 16.0N 71.5W 1007 31
0000UTC 20.08.2017 144 16.1N 75.0W 1005 33

Canadian DISSIPATES entirely

May be yet ANOTHER false alarm from the models
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#228 Postby Alyono » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:29 pm

mentioned in other thread, CMC dissipates the west system and 91L

Maybe a 50/50 or greater chance this was a one off from the models over reacting to the large convective envelope earlier today.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#229 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:34 pm

Alyono wrote:mentioned in other thread, CMC dissipates the west system and 91L

Maybe a 50/50 or greater chance this was a one off from the models over reacting to the large convective envelope earlier today.


What a crazy next week it's going to be. Thoughts on the system CMC has developing behind these two being foretasted in the Caribbean?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#230 Postby Alyono » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:36 pm

FLpanhandle91 wrote:
Alyono wrote:mentioned in other thread, CMC dissipates the west system and 91L

Maybe a 50/50 or greater chance this was a one off from the models over reacting to the large convective envelope earlier today.


What a crazy next week it's going to be. Thoughts on the system CMC has developing behind these two being foretasted in the Caribbean?


I don't even care what it is saying that far out. The models are struggling with 3 day genesis, much less 10
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#231 Postby SFLcane » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:39 pm

Intensifying moving wsw in Bahamas
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#232 Postby blp » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:43 pm

Alyono wrote:
FLpanhandle91 wrote:
Alyono wrote:mentioned in other thread, CMC dissipates the west system and 91L

Maybe a 50/50 or greater chance this was a one off from the models over reacting to the large convective envelope earlier today.


What a crazy next week it's going to be. Thoughts on the system CMC has developing behind these two being foretasted in the Caribbean?


I don't even care what it is saying that far out. The models are struggling with 3 day genesis, much less 10


Amazing don't recall seeing so much inconsistency in the short to medium range.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#233 Postby blp » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:50 pm

Not even bothering with the GFS. Can't even get a consistent upper environment forecast from run to run.

This is why I don't care much for upgrades. Most of the time they don't live up to the hype and the new features introduce regression bugs that break things that were working fine before.
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#234 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:02 am

Alyono wrote:NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 108 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+108 : 15.4N 63.3W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 18.08.2017 108 15.4N 63.3W 1008 29
0000UTC 19.08.2017 120 15.2N 67.7W 1007 28
1200UTC 19.08.2017 132 16.0N 71.5W 1007 31
0000UTC 20.08.2017 144 16.1N 75.0W 1005 33

Canadian DISSIPATES entirely

May be yet ANOTHER false alarm from the models


What a terrible year to be a global model.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#235 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:04 am

Alyono wrote:
FLpanhandle91 wrote:
Alyono wrote:mentioned in other thread, CMC dissipates the west system and 91L

Maybe a 50/50 or greater chance this was a one off from the models over reacting to the large convective envelope earlier today.


What a crazy next week it's going to be. Thoughts on the system CMC has developing behind these two being foretasted in the Caribbean?


I don't even care what it is saying that far out. The models are struggling with 3 day genesis, much less 10


Variance in the long range from run to run is acceptable. But I can't recall models as a whole struggling in their 3-5 day forecasts.
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#236 Postby Alyono » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:06 am

Kingarabian wrote:
Alyono wrote:NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 108 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+108 : 15.4N 63.3W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 18.08.2017 108 15.4N 63.3W 1008 29
0000UTC 19.08.2017 120 15.2N 67.7W 1007 28
1200UTC 19.08.2017 132 16.0N 71.5W 1007 31
0000UTC 20.08.2017 144 16.1N 75.0W 1005 33

Canadian DISSIPATES entirely

May be yet ANOTHER false alarm from the models


What a terrible year to be a global model.


it's like back to the early 2000s
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#237 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:15 am

:uarrow: Yeah the 500 mb ridge looks very strong on that run. That is an omnious sign as no recurve scenario in that scenario if this comes to fruition.
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#238 Postby HurricaneEric » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:05 am

00z Euro has a 1009mb TD in 48 hrs from the feature west of 91LImage

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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#239 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:15 am

:uarrow: I am leaning as well that this robust area near 35 Longitude will take over as the main area. 91L will merge into it.
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#240 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:46 am

Euro has this about to enter a wide open GOM as an intensifying TC.

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