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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#121 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:58 pm

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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#122 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:58 pm

How the run ends. weakness over Florida and EGOM probably would head right up into South Florida or EGOM

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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#123 Postby Alyono » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:59 pm

988mb approaching the Florida Keys on the EC at 240 hrs
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#124 Postby sma10 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:59 pm

Never forget the tried and true "Tropical Bulls-Eye Law": It's a decent bet that this system doesn't directly hit Hispaniola.
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#125 Postby Alyono » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:02 pm

WAcyclone wrote:
Alyono wrote:on the full res EC, it gets down to 991mb and makes a direct hit on Dominica


Looks like it makes landfall on Martinique as a strong tropical storm on the full resolution ECMWF: See this link


you're right. Got my islands mixed up
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#126 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:02 pm

It's also possible that this system does indeed merge with what is now 91L.
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#127 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:05 pm

Alyono is this one that i put sat pic that round 30 w ? i talk to nhc their say dont good low with it their more intest with 91l
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#128 Postby blp » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:05 pm

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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#129 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:06 pm


that one by cape(91l) we talking about one by 35w
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#130 Postby Alyono » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:07 pm

floridasun78 wrote:Alyono is this one that i put sat pic that round 30 w ? i talk to nhc their say dont good low with it their more intest with 91l


looks to be around 11.5N, 33.5W
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#131 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:09 pm

tolakram wrote:It's also possible that this system does indeed merge with what is now 91L.


The NHC agrees with your thinking as per the 2pm update.


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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#132 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:10 pm

Alyono wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:Alyono is this one that i put sat pic that round 30 w ? i talk to nhc their say dont good low with it their more intest with 91l


looks to be around 11.5N, 33.5W

yes that one that was sat at 30west now at 35w i surprise that nhc not picking up this one their like 91l better
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#133 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:11 pm

So in the long range: GFS has a cat.3 recurving well east of Florida and the Euro has a system about to enter the gulf. So a split of their respective tracks would mean SE USA may be under the gun.
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#134 Postby Alyono » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:11 pm

Kingarabian wrote:So in the long range: GFS has a cat.3 recurving well east of Florida and the Euro has a system about to enter the gulf. So a split of their respective tracks would mean SE USA may be under the gun.


dont think you can split the tracks since they are two separate systems. GFS develops 91L. EC develops this one. Seems to be more model support for this system
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#135 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:11 pm

Very, very interesting runs just posted. Things may get very interesting the next 7-10 days on this forum if the newest runs come to fruition.
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#136 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:16 pm

Alyono wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:So in the long range: GFS has a cat.3 recurving well east of Florida and the Euro has a system about to enter the gulf. So a split of their respective tracks would mean SE USA may be under the gun.


dont think you can split the tracks since they are two separate systems. GFS develops 91L. EC develops this one. Seems to be more model support for this system


You don't think they'll merge?
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#137 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:17 pm

91invest vs maybe invest 92? this likely wont part of invest 91 maybe new invest more toward west i bet people in windwards are looking big tropical wave coming day
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#138 Postby p1nheadlarry » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:23 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:
tolakram wrote:It's also possible that this system does indeed merge with what is now 91L.


The NHC agrees with your thinking as per the 2pm update.


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If that's the case it won't likely develop as quickly as the GFS has it I would surmise.
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#139 Postby Alyono » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:23 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Alyono wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:So in the long range: GFS has a cat.3 recurving well east of Florida and the Euro has a system about to enter the gulf. So a split of their respective tracks would mean SE USA may be under the gun.


dont think you can split the tracks since they are two separate systems. GFS develops 91L. EC develops this one. Seems to be more model support for this system


You don't think they'll merge?


not sure. There's so much model support for this lead one that I do not know if it will merge
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Re: Central Atlantic Disturbance (west of 91L)

#140 Postby WAcyclone » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:34 pm

That's an interesting track predicted by the UKMET. No sign of gaining any latitude through 168 hours:

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