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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#101 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:12 am

Kingarabian wrote:00z Euro Parallel similar to the 00z Euro Operational run. Recurves just before hitting Peurto Rico. Intensities is at 982mb, 23mb higher. Moving slowly.

Is the 500mb pattern the same on days 8-10?
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#102 Postby ROCK » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:34 am

Forecasting the 500 pattern 8-11 days from now is like playing darts with a really bad player. Fun to do but full of errors. We need to wait until this gets closer in the mid range..like 172hrs and in range and not the 288 range lol
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#103 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:59 am

ROCK wrote:Forecasting the 500 pattern 8-11 days from now is like playing darts with a really bad player. Fun to do but full of errors. We need to wait until this gets closer in the mid range..like 172hrs and in range and not the 288 range lol


If one believes the 00z ECMWF we're in the <168 hour range.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#104 Postby Dylan » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:12 am

Alyono wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Now this is turning more serious for the islands as the main models are on consensus.Fellow friends in the islands,let's be prepared in case what the models are showing comes to fructition but still is not a stone thing until a system is formed as things in the atmospheric pattern can change in 10 days.


with the SAL and unfavorable MJO?

I'd give this a 20% chance of development within the next 7 days. If it develops, it should not exceed weak to moderate TS intensity given the large scale unfavorable conditions. Maybe if it can get north of the deep tropics, it will have a chance to do more


Considering there have only been 8 July Major Hurricanes since 1851, I understand why you're skeptical. However, the MJO is progged to be favorable by the timeframe depicted by the ECM/GFS blend. If this isn't a strong signal that's being depicted by the guidance, then I don't know what is.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#105 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:31 am

12z GFS operational Developing starts just prior to reaching the islands.

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#106 Postby Siker » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:39 am

12z CMC picked this up for the first time.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#107 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:39 am

Powerful Hurricane South of PR.

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#108 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:47 am

So now it looks like we have three global models onboard with this potential system as of 12z today, still awaiting the 12z Euro.

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#109 Postby SFLcane » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:49 am

Mentioned last night GFS now into CA.. we shall see
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#110 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:55 am

Strong shear & land interaction keeps the system in check this run beyond 240 hours, but at the same time we're talking about total fantasy land.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#111 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:55 am

Siker wrote:12z CMC picked this up for the first time.


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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#112 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:56 am

Into the Eastern GoM as a weak sloppy TC.

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#113 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:58 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Strong shear & land interaction keeps the system in check this run beyond 240 hours, but at the same time we're talking about total fantasy land.

Idk it looks to still have it's anticyclone overhead. I'm thinking close proximity to the southern coast of Cuba and the other Greater Antilles is to explain for the ragged mess in the Gulf, though that's too far out to speculate.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#114 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:58 am

12Z GFS shows NW Florida again at end run..
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#115 Postby stormlover2013 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:05 pm

180 hours ignore after that
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#116 Postby Dylan » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:13 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Strong shear & land interaction keeps the system in check this run beyond 240 hours, but at the same time we're talking about total fantasy land.

Idk it looks to still have it's anticyclone overhead. I'm thinking close proximity to the southern coast of Cuba and the other Greater Antilles is to explain for the ragged mess in the Gulf, though that's too far out to speculate.


The Boundary Layer may not have time to recover.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#117 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:16 pm

Bullish 12Z GFS Ensembles:

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#118 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:19 pm

If it stays as a low rider thru MDR between Africa and Windward Islands it can avoid the dry air to the north of 13 -14N.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#119 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:25 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:180 hours ignore after that


I second this. Two thumbs up. However, I would say 96 hours, and stop there.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#120 Postby RL3AO » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:28 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:180 hours ignore after that


I second this. Two thumbs up. However, I would say 96 hours, and stop there.


But then we'd have nothing to talk about haha.
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