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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#121 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:54 pm

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Vorticity and convergence increasing along the monsoon trough. Looking pretty good this afternoon.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#122 Postby AtlanticWind » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:04 pm

Euro a little stronger thru 48 hrs
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#123 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:08 pm

Yes 12z Euro stronger thru 48 hours.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#124 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:09 pm

You can clearly see how the models still want to combine two waves/vorticity maxima into one.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#125 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:17 pm

Why is this not a TD? Just wondering what it is missing. You can see the low level spin, and it appears much more organized than yesterday.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#126 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:17 pm

Stays south of prior runs at 96 hours.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#127 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:17 pm

Euro down to 1010mb at 96hrs and it's more SW. It's approaching the unfavorable conditions that lay around 70W though. So will be interesting now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#128 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:17 pm

Euro stronger and well south of the GFS.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#129 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:19 pm

RL3AO wrote:http://i.imgur.com/Tx3cDGx.gif

Vorticity and convergence increasing along the monsoon trough. Looking pretty good this afternoon.
Am I seeing a mid or low level turning at the lower right side of that image? I've only looked at this image, thus the reason for the question vs posting my thoughts on what I see.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#130 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:21 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
RL3AO wrote:http://i.imgur.com/Tx3cDGx.gif

Vorticity and convergence increasing along the monsoon trough. Looking pretty good this afternoon.
Am I seeing a mid or low level turning at the lower right side of that image? I've only looked at this image, thus the reason for the question vs posting my thoughts on what I see.


Should be a low-level circulation. It's improving by the hour along the monsoon trough.

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#131 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:22 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#132 Postby AtlanticWind » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:23 pm

Euro much farther south
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#133 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:24 pm

At hour 120 it begins to weaken, up to 1013mb.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#134 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:25 pm

Could this be another Tropical Storm Erika from 2015? Where the models had it going north of the islands, but it continued to trend into the Caribbean instead.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#135 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:26 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
RL3AO wrote:http://i.imgur.com/Tx3cDGx.gif

Vorticity and convergence increasing along the monsoon trough. Looking pretty good this afternoon.
Am I seeing a mid or low level turning at the lower right side of that image? I've only looked at this image, thus the reason for the question vs posting my thoughts on what I see.

Upon further review of the image, I mean at the center right of the image. It appears to be a strong mid-level rotation developing and the possibility of low level turning attempting to develop just N or NW of the apparent mid-level turning as well as a low level outflow boundary heading quickly NW. But I think it has a ways to go to get to TD. I wouldn't be surprised at a call to TD within the next 48 hours, probably towards the end of that time frame. Again, this is based soley on the image above.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#136 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:27 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Why is this not a TD? Just wondering what it is missing. You can see the low level spin, and it appears much more organized than yesterday.


It needs to detach from the monsoon trough, which is causing most of the low-level convergence right now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#137 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:27 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Could this be another Tropical Storm Erika from 2015? Where the models had it going north of the islands, but it continued to trend into the Caribbean instead.


Doesn't matter if it goes north of the islands or south at this point. It's dying as soon as it approaches the islands.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#138 Postby Nimbus » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:27 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Looks like they're buying into the GFS's sudden sharp NW turn. I find that a little suspect.


The storm2k consensus had the track north of the islands before it was even an invest.
Its slow moving, not being swept along rapidly west under ridge flow.
The official forecast isn't going to speculate on the strength of the ridge 10 days out obviously.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#139 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:30 pm

12z Euro opens it up back into a wave at hour 140. Much further south and looks like it's going to run straight into the islands and more land areas.

I'll post model runs as soon as I get on a PC if no one else does.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#140 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:30 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:Could this be another Tropical Storm Erika from 2015? Where the models had it going north of the islands, but it continued to trend into the Caribbean instead.


Doesn't matter if it goes north of the islands or south at this point. It's dying as soon as it approaches the islands.



I agree, but I was just merely pointing out if it could take a similar track to Erika that year.
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