ATL: CINDY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1441 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:23 am

wxman57 wrote:It's all about the pressure gradient (rate of change of pressure over distance), not the lowest pressure. With a storm as spread out as Cindy, 996mb or even 990mb won't amount to much wind. But if Cindy was a tiny storm with a tight core, then 990mb might result in close to hurricane strength.


-(1/ρ)∇p or something right :)

(Well per unit mass to get the force...but still)
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Recon

#1442 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:26 am

Tireman4 wrote:Recon is in there now?


The morning mission is over.Here is the whole flight.

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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1443 Postby Steve » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:29 am

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:
panamatropicwatch wrote:
CYCLONE MIKE wrote:This should be called subtropical storm IMO. Naked swirl, dying convection displaced well to the east. Amazing that this is only 200 some miles south of LA coast and almost everyone south of I-10 is dry. Kind of get how people feel up in the northeast when they have that big noreaster and get completely dry slotted.


Dry south of I-10 are you kidding me. I'm in Panama City and have had over 4 inches of rain. Plenty of other people south of I-10 have had that much if not more.


Was talking about south Louisiana.


We got probably 3" so far. I'm not sure if we'll get a ton more. It's going to depend on feeder moisture. I still think S AL and NW FL are going to get the worst of the rain. But there are still ongoing tornado warnings in South MS (2 currently as I'm typing this out).
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1444 Postby jabman98 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:33 am

A bit gustier here in Houston this morning than I was expecting. Nothing major, just a bit more than I thought we'd see at this point.
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1445 Postby Steve » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:36 am

Also, this has been a day weighted storm that's been recharging in the overnight. They're all a little different, but Cindy gets juiced in the day time and then tapers off usually around 10-11pm. Higher cloud tops are showing up on JSL. We'll have to see what she brings up on the wet side today as well as what she does nearer to landfall.

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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1446 Postby djmikey » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:38 am

jabman98 wrote:A bit gustier here in Houston this morning than I was expecting. Nothing major, just a bit more than I thought we'd see at this point.

I was thinking the same here Jab! Im in Beaumont, and winds here are certainly picking up. Not anything to write home about but it sure has that tropical feel to it.
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1447 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:38 am

 https://twitter.com/HerzogWeather/status/877522845039038465




Trying to confirm that tweet, pressure is dropping, it does seem to be a bit west, but not sure about the shear part. The convection on the NW side is firing this morning though.
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1448 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:39 am

Doesn't seem to be in any hurry and looks better organized. IMO



http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/?parms=gulf-02-24-1
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1449 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:44 am

BobHarlem wrote: https://twitter.com/HerzogWeather/status/877522845039038465




Trying to confirm that tweet, pressure is dropping, it does seem to be a bit west, but not sure about the shear part. The convection on the NW side is firing this morning though.

Shear is dropping due to the gradual filling of the upper level low, but it's still present. KLCH and KLIX still had 35 kt SW winds above 200 mb in their 12Z soundings. Dry air is still a major problem too.

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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1450 Postby sphelps8681 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:44 am

BobHarlem wrote: https://twitter.com/HerzogWeather/status/877522845039038465




Trying to confirm that tweet, pressure is dropping, it does seem to be a bit west, but not sure about the shear part. The convection on the NW side is firing this morning though.


Does say on his twitter page the wind shear has backed off.
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1451 Postby jabman98 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:45 am

djmikey wrote:
jabman98 wrote:A bit gustier here in Houston this morning than I was expecting. Nothing major, just a bit more than I thought we'd see at this point.

I was thinking the same here Jab! Im in Beaumont, and winds here are certainly picking up. Not anything to write home about but it sure has that tropical feel to it.

Yeah! It surprised me. I'm taking care of my neighbor's house while she's out of town and I was just thinking I was glad I didn't have to prep her house and yard. Then I went outside and a strong gust kind of blew me backwards a step. Like I said, nothing major but I wasn't expecting that. It's cloudy too. You can tell a tropical system is nearby. We've been really dry here for a few weeks so we could use a little rain so it would be nice if we got an inch or two.
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1452 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:48 am

Just a reminder to keep the discussions civil today. Don't attack anyone for being "wrong" or whatever. If I see any of that I'll force you to endure a REALLY warm winter next December-February. For now, I'll keep my promise of a cold, icy winter for the Deep South.
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1453 Postby cajungal » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:52 am

I live in Thibodaux. An hour southwest of New Orleans. We had some heavy rain and wind last night. But now sun has been peeking through all morning and it is calm.
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1454 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:53 am

1900hurricane wrote:
BobHarlem wrote:https://twitter.com/HerzogWeather/status/877522845039038465

Trying to confirm that tweet, pressure is dropping, it does seem to be a bit west, but not sure about the shear part. The convection on the NW side is firing this morning though.

Shear is dropping due to the gradual filling of the upper level low, but it's still present. KLCH and KLIX still had 35 kt SW winds above 200 mb in their 12Z soundings. Dry air is still a major problem too.

http://i.imgur.com/4sOXeFE.gif


Yeah the dry air is really cutting to the heart of Cindy, heck most of the rainfall is in the Panhandle, well away from it.
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1455 Postby TwinMom1021 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:56 am

BTR mets mentioning increased tornado threat this afternoon and overnight tonight for SE LA and MS.
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1456 Postby Cuda17 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:05 am

Sure does look like Cindy is taking a jog West to WSW of the NHC line...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/03L/flash-rgb-long.html
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1457 Postby caneman » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:08 am

You expect heavy rains and tornados with these types of systems. Maybe it will make one last run but looks awfully dry surrounding the llc. I'd be surprised if it has enough time to fill in but never say never
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1458 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:09 am

Another loop in the making?


Cuda17 wrote:Sure does look like Cindy is taking a jog West to WSW of the NHC line...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/03L/flash-rgb-long.html
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1459 Postby Cuda17 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:11 am

Stormcenter wrote:Another loop in the making?


Cuda17 wrote:Sure does look like Cindy is taking a jog West to WSW of the NHC line...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/03L/flash-rgb-long.html


Could be, just so hard to tell what's going on with such a massive CoC.
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Re: ATL: CINDY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1460 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:13 am

10am PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 310 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
I am not sure where they get 10mph from looking at the past recon fixes and satellite images. Somewhat confused :roll:
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