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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4541 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:44 pm

Good winter time rains the next few days. 1-3" seems fairly widespread across Texas with areas under heavier lift 2-4". Rain Miser (Jdawg) doing his rain dance
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4542 Postby South Texas Storms » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:49 pm

Ntxw wrote:Good winter time rains the next few days. 1-3" seems fairly widespread across Texas with areas under heavier lift 2-4". Rain Miser (Jdawg) doing his rain dance


Yep, looking forward to Tuesday's storm system as well. Not bad for February. Slight severe risk with that one too across the southern half of the state.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4543 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:03 pm

I changed our thread title. Maybe somebody here should too.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4544 Postby wxman57 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:30 pm

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wxman57 wrote:I think it's time to "call it", as far as winter for TX is concerned. Next week's front may drop temps a little below normal for a couple of days, but it's back to the 80s next weekend. Operational models & ensembles out to 15 days indicate temps in Canada remaining above-normal. There just isn't any cold air to come down here from Canada through the end of February. Yes, it could get cold in March, but I wouldn't bet on the pattern of the last 6 weeks changing in March.


You could have called it after the early January cold spell, because there has been no "winter" to speak of since then.

For all of you folks who are enjoying this lack of winter ... no griping from you come this spring and summer when the heat and humidity soar and the heat indices are triple digits on a daily basis. Can't have one without the other.


I sort of did, back in the first week of January. Was reading some old posts from winter (Jan 6-8) and said that I could tolerate 3 days of winter, as long as it was going to be followed by 3 (or more) weeks or warmth (as per long range models). The only time the long-range models have been right all the time has been when they've forecast warmth. The only significant cold front they saw was that front in early January. Otherwise, the models have been terrible at predicting strong fronts that never materialized.

Had a great 40-mile bike ride today, up to The Heights to have lunch at Beck's Prime on 19th street. It was almost warm out there (85 degrees).
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4545 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:45 pm

Definitely have to watch the severe weather outbreak. Surface low cutting up to the midwest and strong jet from southern plains to Dixie spells potential upper end risk tornado days.

I was watching coverage of the Oklahoma fires today and the vegetation up there really does look dead and like in a drought. Which they are in, drastically different once you cross into Texas where shrubs and some cases green grass, other dormant but not dead. California's drought has been cut back and wiped out in the northern half of the state while the southern half is on path to being clear. What a great couple of years for the country in terms of cutting down severe drought.

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4546 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:04 pm

Back to winter, GFS and to an extent EPS is hinting at more -EPO? Perhaps when the MJO makes it way through the IO phases

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CFSv2 builds a good dose of cold anomalies in Canada moving to the latter half of the month
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4547 Postby STX Expat » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:39 pm

Re: Bubba and Ntwx's last posts:

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Surely wxman57 will relinquish control for one last gasp? Right?
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4548 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:56 pm

STX Expat wrote:Surely wxman57 will relinquish control for one last gasp? Right?


He must.

On a serious note, this is still the winter thread and we do have to keep at it until the end. I know the jokes and sarcasms about winter cancels but we don't do this to the other threads or derail them such as in fall or summer or spring as much as we do in the winter threads. If there is a threat for winter, discussion is welcome and all things weather in winter :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4549 Postby Texas Snowman » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:25 pm

Don't look now but there are Winter Storm Watches up in the Texas Panhandle. Could be a few inches of snow and sleet out there around Amarillo.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4550 Postby Texas Snow » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:26 pm

On this date, 2010, DFW...



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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4551 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:45 pm

srainhoutx wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:That storm system for next weekend looks potent. Deep negative tilt trough tracking eastward across the state next Sunday. Could be a severe outbreak.


Very amplified MJO in Phase 8 and a stout CCKW tends to favor the potential for severe weather across portions of Texas. It's already on my radar scope, so to speak... :wink:


And AAM looks to be descending, large scale features are certainly raising some eyebrows. Also, Tuesday could be sneaky in SE Texas or S. Louisiana. The year is already off to a wild svr wx start and that looks to get even more cranked up in March.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4552 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:04 am

0z GFS definitely raises some eyebrows. I would watch closely the weather in the coming days for an outbreak. SPC may zone in as the frame comes closer, anyone from Texas to Louisiana on east needs to keep tabs imo
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4553 Postby Brent » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:28 am

It looks like tornado season is about to escalate even more looking at the GFS...

I'm not even concerned about "winter" anymore.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4554 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:27 am

This could be an interesting Tuesday. Srain alluded to it in his forecast...Jeff did too...

Monday morning briefing from Jeff:

Strong storm system will cross TX tonight and Tuesday

Another storm system will impact the region late this weekend

A strong upper level storm system currently over the SW US will move eastward and across TX on Tuesday. At the surface a weak frontal boundary has stalled along a line from near Beaumont to BUSH IAH to roughly Columbus with a slightly drier and cooler air mass north of this feature. South of this boundary conditions remain “summer like” with dewpoints in the mid to upper 60’s and temperatures in the upper 60’s and low 70’s. This weak boundary will begin to lift northward today in response to height falls spreading across TX ahead of the approaching upper level system.

Low level jet begins to ramp up this evening and expect 25-35kt jet in place helping to transport moisture northward by Tuesday morning. PWS rise into the 1.4-1.6 inch range by Tuesday morning as favorable jet stream dynamics come to bear across the region. Low level shear values really increase on Tuesday morning with good turning in the low and mid levels especially south of I-10 and mid/upper level winds become broadly divergent. While instability is generally lacking, have seen multiple times where low CAPE/high shear environments can produce severe weather along the Gulf coast.

Showers and thunderstorms will begin to develop in the broad ascent on Tuesday morning while a sharp cold front with strong lift will sweep eastward from C TX during the mid morning to mid afternoon hours. Strong linear forcing along the cold front will result in the formation of a line of thunderstorms. Timing of the frontal boundary around midday supports slightly better instability across the region, but still not great and this in the end may help keep the severe threat in check. SPC has upgraded areas roughly from eastern Fort Bend County east into a slight risk for severe storms with the primary threats being strong winds and isolated tornadoes. Tornado threat will be highest with any cells that form ahead of the main line in SW to NE moving supercells generally south of I-10 and east of SH 288.

High PW values for this time of year certainly support heavy rainfall, but the progressive nature of the system should help to mitigate any serious flooding concerns. Widespread rainfall amounts of 1-2 inches will be common with isolated totals of 3-5 inches possible. Those heavier totals will only materialize if convection can develop ahead of the main line of thunderstorms as the line along the front will be fairly progressive. High moisture levels support 1-2 inch per hour rainfall rates and this could lead to street flooding in urban areas. As we saw back on 1-18-17 it only takes a few hours to get into trouble with high hourly rainfall rates under training convection in these highly moist air masses.

Front and weather should rapidly clear the area by early evening on Tuesday, but wrap around low clouds will be possible into Wednesday and when combined with cold air advection will keep high temperatures in the 50’s and 60’s on Wednesday.

Active pattern will be maintained going forward as a series of CA then southern US storm systems move across the US. Next deep upper level trough set to affect TX this weekend with Sunday into Monday looking wet again along with some strong thunderstorm potential.

Over the next 7 days portions of SE TX could see 4-6 inches of rainfall.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4555 Postby wxman57 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:28 am

Just did one of those Facebook deals where it analyzes you and tells you what state you belong in. It said I belong in Florida because I'm warm and loving, just like the Sunshine State! Hopefully, it's south Florida. North Florida gets too cold...

Have to fly to New Orleans tomorrow morning. Don't let any cold air in while I'm gone, or I'll bring 80s back to Texas this weekend. I have a feeling the weather may disrupt my return flight tomorrow evening. Heavy storms should be between Houston and New Orleans, though.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4556 Postby ronyan » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:53 am

SPC Day 2 Outlook has a slight severe threat for the Houston area extending east over towards Pensacola. Usually if it goes enhanced I expect something to happen.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4557 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:06 am

Ugh, i hope this severe season isnt bad. Not looking good for us in the near future.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4558 Postby wxman57 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:18 am

ronyan wrote:SPC Day 2 Outlook has a slight severe threat for the Houston area extending east over towards Pensacola. Usually if it goes enhanced I expect something to happen.


Last week, the outlook for severe storm potential near New Orleans was "marginal" on the SPC outlook. Those were some quite significant tornadoes. Could be more severe storms with this system tomorrow afternoon/evening in SE TX/SW Louisiana.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4559 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:45 am

It feels great outside. Overcast, north wind, temp of 48 and a windchill of 43.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#4560 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:50 am

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Ugh, i hope this severe season isnt bad. Not looking good for us in the near future.


Its looking potent. The fact that its been cool in the northwest US and warm in the southern US is a clash of two air masses in spring. Lines up well with big tornado seasons. We have already seen a high risk day this year! This weekend or early week could see a moderate or even high risk day.
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