Texas Winter 2016-2017

[TheProfessor]

This winter has sucked. I have gotten maybe 8 inches of snow this year. That might seem like a lot to you guys, but last year was considered a down year and we received 19 inches of snow. I didn't move to Ohio to only see 8 inches of snow in one season.

[Portastorm]

I can promise you (Portastorm) that this winter nightmare (for you) IS going to end. I'm thinking around the third or fourth week of December...

By the way, what happened to your snow miser avatar?

It died. You melted it.

[Brent]

This winter has sucked. I have gotten maybe 8 inches of snow this year. That might seem like a lot to you guys, but last year was considered a down year and we received 19 inches of snow. I didn't move to Ohio to only see 8 inches of snow in one season.

It seems like unless something drastically changes soon a lot of places are gonna finish out with a sucky winter

[Yukon Cornelius]

It's been too dang hot. However, I am looking forward to a high of 42 tomorrow!

[gpsnowman]

This winter has sucked. I have gotten maybe 8 inches of snow this year. That might seem like a lot to you guys, but last year was considered a down year and we received 19 inches of snow. I didn't move to Ohio to only see 8 inches of snow in one season.

It seems like unless something drastically changes soon a lot of places are gonna finish out with a sucky winter

Seriously, most of the country it seems has been above normal with little snow or ice sans California. I can't recall one blizzard or major ice storm at all this season. Maybe I am missing one but this winter sucks. It has been hot the last three days in the middle of winter. Two winters in a row with this crap. Next season better bring the goods. Weather frustration sucks.

[northjaxpro]

The only significant winter storm for this season occured Jan 7-9, 2017 that dropped the snow and ice across the Carolinas and into Southeast Virginia.

This winter really has been a huge disappointment for yours truly.

[Yukon Cornelius]

This winter has sucked. I have gotten maybe 8 inches of snow this year. That might seem like a lot to you guys, but last year was considered a down year and we received 19 inches of snow. I didn't move to Ohio to only see 8 inches of snow in one season.

It seems like unless something drastically changes soon a lot of places are gonna finish out with a sucky winter

Seriously, most of the country it seems has been above normal with little snow or ice sans California. I can't recall one blizzard or major ice storm at all this season. Maybe I am missing one but this winter sucks. It has been hot the last three days in the middle of winter. Two winters in a row with this crap. Next season better bring the goods. Weather frustration sucks.

I think you're right. Now that you mention it, I can't recall any big Boston, New York or other Northeast, or Midwest major blizzard this winter as in most other winters.

[TheProfessor]

Upper midwest/Northern Plains has cashed in, might be getting another big storm next week too.

[dhweather]

Generally, I absolutely do not believe models two weeks out.

Unfortunately, I have little trouble believing this is exactly what it will be like in two weeks.

[dhweather]

Sadly, this is very believable as well.

[Brent]

Remember fantasy land is only right when it shows hot and dry

It's also been pretty consistent with warmth around ValentInes day

[Golf7070]

Wxman57, I have a question. Wouldn't the mjo going in the colder phases 8-2 be good for us in terms of colder weather. Also, do u put much stock in the ssw with PV displacements/splits? I think it gets colder more than what the models show right now imo.

[wxman57]

Wxman57, I have a question. Wouldn't the mjo going in the colder phases 8-2 be good for us in terms of colder weather. Also, do u put much stock in the ssw with PV displacements/splits? I think it gets colder more than what the models show right now imo.

I've never really followed the MJO or SSW for winter weather patterns - that's my friend & coworker's job. I just keep one hand on the "up" button of the thermostat. That seems to have worked this winter.

[gboudx]

Wxman57, I have a question. Wouldn't the mjo going in the colder phases 8-2 be good for us in terms of colder weather. Also, do u put much stock in the ssw with PV displacements/splits? I think it gets colder more than what the models show right now imo.

I've never really followed the MJO or SSW for winter weather patterns - that's my friend & coworker's job. I just keep one hand on the "up" button of the thermostat. That seems to have worked this winter.

We know. We get it. You say it all.....the.......time. You like it warm, which works great living in Houston because you get 10.75 months of it. Some of us like some cold weather, which is the majority opinion on this thread. But you keep antagonizing. If you weren't wxman57, you'd been run off a long time ago. I like you and I like your posts, especially for the tropics, but this is just getting tiring to read every day.

[Tireman4]

We are beat. We are tired. I just want normal temperatures. We cannot even get that. Sheesh. Oh how he gloats. Double sigh

[Ntxw]

I understand the frustration. Many forget this is the winter thread and it was created to discuss any potentials and talk of cold and snow. It is what keeps this thread alive compared to other winter threads. Wxman57 can be brutal, but it is truth of the winter(s). Most of our winters end up above normal and once every 5 years we get a below normal one (since 2000). Times of warmth is usually when tensions rise for this thread. Portastorm has forgotten what snow is like, DFW has been lucky with snow but the warm days have way outnumbered the cold days. I have been suffering all winter during the warm periods (there have been many) because those are the days with the highest mountain cedar count with the southwest wind so it's been doubly bad. Still hopeful we get another shot this month! Or even early March. I am hopeful the -AO to come will deliver a surprise.

Cold front coming through and tomorrow will feel a lot better for cooler weather lovers! Cold front coming through DFW now with winds switching out of the north

[Golf7070]

Ntxw, do you agree with me or no? I don't believe cfs v2 if that amplitude of mjo pans out. And PV ssw stuff

[Ntxw]

Ntxw, do you agree with me or no? I don't believe cfs v2 if that amplitude of mjo pans out. And PV ssw stuff

It's possible. MJO phases 5/6/7/8/1 are very El Nino like phases. It warms Canada and creates +PNA. It works when there is an actual El Nino because you get the subtropical jet to keep the storm train active and cooler days. Should you get modest cold dislodge it's a good combo (but obviously not during super ninos you blowtorch Canada). But during a Nina it's no mo jo..,just warmth from the +PNA ridge and no STJ. SSW is working I think, it's working it's way down and the AO looks like a real dive. Any effects won't show up until at the earliest second week.

[Golf7070]

Ntxw, do you agree with me or no? I don't believe cfs v2 if that amplitude of mjo pans out. And PV ssw stuff

It's possible. MJO phases 5/6/7/8/1 are very El Nino like phases. It warms Canada and creates +PNA. It works when there is an actual El Nino because you get the subtropical jet to keep the storm train active and cooler days. Should you get modest cold dislodge it's a good combo (but obviously not during super ninos you blowtorch Canada). But during a Nina it's no mo jo..,just warmth from the +PNA ridge and no STJ. SSW is working I think, it's working it's way down and the AO looks like a real dive. Any effects won't show up until at the earliest second week.

Our only chance to get sustainable cold is with -ao/nao around here? Realistically?

[Ntxw]

Ntxw, do you agree with me or no? I don't believe cfs v2 if that amplitude of mjo pans out. And PV ssw stuff

It's possible. MJO phases 5/6/7/8/1 are very El Nino like phases. It warms Canada and creates +PNA. It works when there is an actual El Nino because you get the subtropical jet to keep the storm train active and cooler days. Should you get modest cold dislodge it's a good combo (but obviously not during super ninos you blowtorch Canada). But during a Nina it's no mo jo..,just warmth from the +PNA ridge and no STJ. SSW is working I think, it's working it's way down and the AO looks like a real dive. Any effects won't show up until at the earliest second week.

Our only chance to get sustainable cold is with -ao/nao around here? Realistically?

I wouldn't say the only. It's still possible the models are underestimating the -EPO period next week. We need some AO help to keep cold around, a near record +AO has been brutal. When it's warm aloft all the time, you switch the winds to the south and the surface heats up fast.