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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#621 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:34 pm

Ntxw wrote:Seems comical, but dont look at the 12z euro. Wild. I think we are quietly seeing hints of a major storm leading up to thanksgiving


I come home from a wedding in Austin to see this. I know its far out but i thought you guys would be all over this! -5 ST DEV 500 MB over Houston seems severely unrealistic at this point but interesting since it has showed this pattern on two runs in a row. Typically the models in LR are a bit early on pattern changes so i agree Ntx.

This would be a little insane though, almost superstorm-esque lol. 993 MB gulf low over Gulf Shores, Alabama.
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#622 Postby dhweather » Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:22 pm

Portastorm wrote::uarrow:

I figured we all needed a good laugh with all of the stressful news out there.

GFS says CAT 5 IN THE GULF!!!


Portastorm, sniff, I love you man! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#623 Postby Ptarmigan » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:01 am

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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#624 Postby Brent » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:15 am

I dunno about snow... but the GFS continues to indicate freezing temperatures around DFW the days before Thanksgiving... the 0z GFS even has a freeze in Austin and upper 30s into Houston.

I think it might be time to start finding where my jacket is...
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#625 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:22 am

Picked up another 1.5" last night and still raining when I left the house. The 1.5 on top of the 3" the other night has definitely left the ground saturated. The rain is nice but I have some hunting to do.
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#626 Postby aggiecutter » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:27 am

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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#627 Postby Portastorm » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:13 am

dhweather wrote:
Portastorm wrote::uarrow:

I figured we all needed a good laugh with all of the stressful news out there.

GFS says CAT 5 IN THE GULF!!!


Portastorm, sniff, I love you man! :lol: :lol: :lol:


What can I say, you coined one of the greatest Storm2K catch phrases of all time!
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#628 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:15 am

2.83" of rain in Missouri City/Sugar land. Storm stalled a bit over the area as it was dumping at over 2" an hour. We needed it.

the Euro again shows a massive flip at 10 days. Its trying to sniff something out for sure. This run it didnt dig as far south as a previous run but still significant.
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#629 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:28 am

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FXUS64 KHGX 071138
AFDHGX

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Houston/Galveston TX
538 AM CST Mon Nov 7 2016

.AVIATION...
Difficult forecast pertaining to chances for showers and for
ceilings. Current observations and satellite show the potential
for IFR to LIFR through about 16Z for most locations. KGLS at the
coast may see some VFR breaks during this period. During the late
morning most locations should improve to MVFR with the two
coastal sites (KLBX and KGLS) having better VFR chances. Most
models bring MVFR or lower conditions back by 03Z or so this
evening.

Regarding chances for showers, am expecting a break through the
morning with subsidence behind the line of showers and storms that
went through early this morning and were off the coast at 1130Z.
Most of the high resolution models keep rain chances out of the
picture for most of the day. However, there was a disturbance
evident in the water vapor over northern Mexico at 11Z and the
state was under the left-front quadrant of the upper level jet
stream. For this reason, think that chances for showers should
return during the afternoon and early evening.

40

&&

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 334 AM CST Mon Nov 7 2016/

DISCUSSION...
An MCS moved through SE TX last night and it looks like subsidence
will dominate in the wake of this system for at least the morning
hours and have trimmed PoPs back significantly. Global models
remain bullish with rain chances today while short term guidance
like the TT WRF, Hi-Res NMM and ARW all support drier conditions.
PW values remain around 1.60 inches and SE TX will remain in a
diffluent upper level wind pattern so it`s not unreasonable to
expect some shra/tsra later today. Water vapor imagery shows a
weak disturbance over Northern Mexico and this feature should
serve as a catalyst for more showers later today. Have split the
difference between the drier short term guidance and the wetter
global models. The 00z TT WRF from last night did a great job so
am worried it`s much drier solution will pan out today and current
PoPS fcst will be too high. Weak isentropic upglide will develop
Tuesday as a SW flow aloft overrides cooler NE sfc winds. Clouds
and some patchy light rain will be possible especially closer to
the coast and offshore.

The upglide weakens Wed/Thu as the upper low over W TX
retrogrades westward. Surface high pressure builds into the
central plains and slightly drier surface air will move into SE
TX. Should be plenty of cirrus streaming overhead embedded in the
jet. SE TX will lie in a subsident zone of the jet so forcing/lift
will be limited and rain chances should be slight to nil with the
higher chances over the Gulf. Temps mid week look to return to
normal levels for this time of year.

The upper low eventually shears out as it moves to the NE next
Saturday. The surface high also shifts east next weekend. Should
get a bit more sunshine and slightly warmer temperatures next
weekend. 43

MARINE...
Winds are expected to diminish as the complex of storms pushes
offshore this morning. A coastal low may move up the offshore waters
later tonight and Tuesday and help keep chances for showers and
thunderstorms over the coastal waters. The main threats from any
storms that do occur will be strong gusty winds.

The other items of concern for today is the tide levels. The strong
easterly winds from earlier has led to tide levels that may generate
brief flooding of roadways on the Bolivar Peninsula during and
shortly after the times of high tide. Because of this, a Coastal
Flood Advisory is in effect until 9 AM today. Higher than normal
tides may again cause some minor flooding later tonight during the
times of high tide once again.

40

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
College Station (CLL) 76 63 73 60 70 / 50 30 30 20 20
Houston (IAH) 78 64 76 62 73 / 50 30 30 20 20
Galveston (GLS) 78 70 76 66 75 / 50 30 30 20 20

&&

.HGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
TX...Coastal Flood Advisory until 9 AM CST this morning for the
following zones: Chambers...Galveston.

GM...SMALL CRAFT SHOULD EXERCISE CAUTION until 9 AM CST this morning
for the following zones: Coastal waters from Freeport to
the Matagorda Ship Channel out 20 NM...Coastal waters from
High Island to Freeport out 20 NM...Galveston Bay...Waters
from Freeport to the Matagorda Ship Channel from 20 to 60
NM...Waters from High Island to Freeport from 20 to 60 NM.

&&

$$

Discussion...43
Aviation/Marine...40
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#630 Postby gatorcane » Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:42 pm

Seems the long-range ECMWF shifts the core of the cold east on this run though Texas is on the fringe. Look at that trough folks, quite impressive for this time of year:

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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#631 Postby Brent » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:02 pm

Been raining here almost all day since lunch... pouring again at 9pm... drought should take a dent in the northern metro at least. :rain:
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#632 Postby dhweather » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:15 pm

racked up 1.10" of liquid gold today - AMEN!
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#633 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:21 am

HGX AFD:

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FXUS64 KHGX 081148
AFDHGX

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Houston/Galveston TX
548 AM CST Tue Nov 8 2016

.AVIATION.../12Z TAF/
Water vapor imagery shows broad troughing over much of Texas this
morning which is support convection mainly over central Texas. A
few showers could affect KCLL this morning but overall thinking is
that convection will remain west of area terminals. CIGS this
morning are all LIFR/IFR with very low ceilings combined with
patchy fog since T/Td spreads are low. TAFs lean more on GFS LAMP
guidance with a prolonged IFR/MVFR event for the terminals. A
frontal boundary will be moving through the area later
today/tonight which will keep winds from the N/NE through the TAF
period. Ceilings should gradually improve today to mainly MVFR in
the afternoon. There may be a couple hours of VFR but think low
ceilings develop again late evening and into the overnight. For
now TAFs keep MVFR CIGS overnight but could very well see IFR.

Overpeck


&&

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 358 AM CST Tue Nov 8 2016/

DISCUSSION...
A long wave trough over the plains and western Texas will keep a
southwesterly flow aloft over SE Texas today through Wednesday. In
the meantime, a cold front at the surface will move across SE
Texas later today and off the coast tonight. The airmass resident
across the area early this morning was still a bit stable.
However, model forecast soundings indicate that moisture levels
will be on the rise and the upper profile will become more
unstable as the surface winds become more easterly throughout the
day. Think that the best chances for showers and thunderstorms
will be over the western and southwestern counties but could not
rule out a chance elsewhere as the front moves into the area.
Drier and cooler air will filter into the area later tonight and
Wednesday and lead to below normal temperatures both periods.

Both the GFS and ECMWF develop an upper low over the El Paso area
by Wednesday night. In turn, an upstream ridge will develop over
the forecast area Thursday and Friday. This will lead to daytime
temperatures warming back into the lower and mid 70s.

Both models then break down the upper ridge and wash out the
upper low as it drifts northeastward into the Southern Plains over
the weekend. By the start of next week, a more westerly flow
pattern will be over the area as another upper level trough
develops over the Southern Plains and western Texas. This in turn
will lead to a continued warming trend and a return of rain
chances.

40

MARINE...
Light/moderate east to northeast winds will precede a frontal
boundary this morning and afternoon. The front should push through
the Upper Texas Coastal waters this afternoon and evening. The
pressure gradient should tighten tonight and support strong north to
northeast winds. Small craft exercise caution may be needed early
Wednesday morning as seas build in response to the increased winds.
Winds may increase more Wednesday night into Thursday which would
require advisories for the coastal waters. Winds should decrease for
the end of the week as high pressure builds over Texas but still
likely remain near or above moderate levels from the northeast.

Tide levels will need to be monitored the next few days. While tide
levels have decreased and should continue to decrease with offshore
winds tonight and tomorrow, tides may still be above normal levels
due to wind directions becoming northeast for the end of the week.
Tide levels could still become 1 foot above normal at times which
would push total tide levels about 3 feet above MLLW potentially
each of the next 3 nights at high tide.

Overpeck

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
College Station (CLL) 71 61 67 56 67 / 40 20 20 10 10
Houston (IAH) 76 62 74 58 73 / 30 20 10 10 10
Galveston (GLS) 73 69 72 66 71 / 30 30 20 10 10

&&

.HGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
TX...NONE.
GM...NONE.
&&

$$

Discussion...40
Aviation/Marine...39
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#634 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:10 pm

There is still a warm pool of water southwest of the sweet spot we would like going into the winter, but the GOA is cooling. The persistent UL in the GOA is cooling the waters down. The warm pool to the west I feel is not helping much either.
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#635 Postby JDawg512 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:58 pm

Started raining in the Austin area roughly around 5-5:30 and has been raining pretty much non stop and it's almost 10 p.m. overall rainfall is light and steady to occasionally moderate. Current temp at my house is 63 degrees.
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#636 Postby gpsnowman » Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:09 am

We are nearing our average first freeze date and here we are having a difficult time dipping below 50 degrees. Worst. Fall. Ever. :ggreen:
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#637 Postby Tejas89 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:48 pm

I think I saw one of the local mets mention this is the latest we've gone without a low in the 40's ....

... and none are forecasted anytime soon.
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#638 Postby gboudx » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:27 pm

Tejas89 wrote:I think I saw one of the local mets mention this is the latest we've gone without a low in the 40's ....

... and none are forecasted anytime soon.


This is true. The DFW NWS had a page on it.

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DFW Airport has yet to dip into the 40s this fall, and temperatures are expected to remain above 50 degrees into the middle of November. For DFW, this is the latest on record for the first 40s of the season. The previous record was November 8, set last year in 2015.
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#639 Postby wxman57 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:56 pm

Houston dropped down to 48 in October. The cold air must have gone around Dallas on its way south.
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Re: Texas Fall-2016

#640 Postby hriverajr » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:56 pm

Rainy and 60 degrees here in Del Rio, Tx. Feels a bit chilly :) It's lovely
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