Significant devlopment in the med

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Significant devlopment in the med

#1 Postby stu » Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:10 pm

We have been looking closly at a devlopment in the med today - that has taken on an almost tropical look.

It has been a pet theory of mine that the med could support a tropical storm...

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#2 Postby chadtm80 » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:05 pm

I added the image for you Stu..

WOWSERS!!!
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#3 Postby chadtm80 » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:13 pm

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#4 Postby ChaserUK » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:15 pm

Stu - indeed, I noticed this earlier, this pic does seem to show a LP centre now too...


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#5 Postby ChaserUK » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:23 pm

even better signs of rotation on here... :D :o

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#6 Postby Anonymous » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:31 pm

On rare occassions tropical cyclones have formed in the Mediterranean. The last time it happened was 1995. There is a decent amount of voriticity at 850MB and shear is rather low.
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#7 Postby ChaserUK » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:35 pm

So there is potential then Jason - have emailed the UK Met Office to see if we can get their thoughts on it also. Here is a useful link to the 1995 storm.

http://www.mindspring.com/~jbeven/intr0008.htm
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#8 Postby ChaserUK » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:41 pm

useful link here for the 1995 storm everyone!

http://www.mindspring.com/~jbeven/intr0008.htm

Interesting to note that SST were around 40-45f!!! I am sure they are closer to 80f this year!!!
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#10 Postby ChaserUK » Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:59 pm

crikey this one forming in the same area too!!
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#11 Postby Rainband » Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:11 pm

Cool!!! Never knew that happened thanks for the info guys!! :wink:
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#12 Postby chadtm80 » Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:13 pm

Correct me if im wrong, but it would not be named if it happend.. Correct?
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#13 Postby ChaserUK » Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:15 pm

As I say - we should name it!!!! TS Adam!!!
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#14 Postby stu » Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:38 pm

It seems that the 1995 devlopment occured during Jaunary when the SST's would be much clooler - I wonder if the area was under very cold polar air aloft?

The current devlopment however over much higher SST's will also benifit from cooler air aloft brought down by that surging cold front
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#15 Postby Stormsfury » Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:46 pm

LOL ChaserUK.

I don't think one's ever been named there before but would be called 1M. It's a rare event but not impossible.
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#16 Postby ChaserUK » Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:46 pm

latest seems to show signs of organisation?

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#17 Postby Derecho » Sun Sep 28, 2003 7:36 pm

TropicalWxWatcher wrote:On rare occassions tropical cyclones have formed in the Mediterranean. The last time it happened was 1995. There is a decent amount of voriticity at 850MB and shear is rather low.


As has been noted SSTs were extremely low.

It's been theorized it was a "Polar Low" which is a warm-core, but not tropical, cyclone, which most Americans are likely to be unfamiliar with; there are none in waters near us; most are in the Arctic or close to the Arctic.

Do a google search on them, you'll find some neat stuff; the pics look tropical, but one impressive one I remember was NORTH of Norway.

And check out the other thread I started with the Italian article about a possible tropical system near Sicily on September 17th.
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#18 Postby Stormsfury » Sun Sep 28, 2003 8:10 pm

Classic example of a polar low or otherwise known as the "Arctic Hurricane"

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#19 Postby JCT777 » Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:03 pm

That polar low looks amazing! And it does resemble a hurricane. 8-)
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