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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1941 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:12 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1942 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:15 pm

Moving NW at 96hrs. Big big change!


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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1944 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:16 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1945 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:17 pm

Seems a bit northeast of the 0z run at 96 hours
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1946 Postby HurrMark » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:18 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:Moving NW at 96hrs. Big big change!


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It is a fair bit north from the 12Z Tuesday run...slightly east. Let's watch on to see how significant this is.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1947 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:20 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1948 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:21 pm

The 12Z run of the ECMWF is running very close to the centerline of the NHC forecast track.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1949 Postby wxmann_91 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:21 pm



Big trend towards GFS. Given that Matthew has been generally north of guidance so far, would not be surprised if that continued in subsequent runs (up through 5-6 days, then it's all up for grabs).
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1950 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:22 pm

Ridge seems to retreat much like the GFS.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1951 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:24 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1952 Postby wxman57 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:25 pm

I plotted the 12Z GFS (red), the 12Z EC (blue) and the 00Z EC (black) on my workstation. See below. Valid time is 21Z Sunday (4 days from now). The GFS is still way farther north and faster, but the 12Z EC is a fair bit east-northeast of the 00Z EC.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1953 Postby bg1 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:25 pm



If the GFS does end up being more correct, than it gives a bit more weight into what I have been wondering lately.

Maybe the GFS is best for the deep tropics (Erika last year, pre-Hermine) while the Euro is best off the East Coast (Joaquin, post-Hermine). :?:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1954 Postby wxmann_91 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:25 pm

The ULL/feature east of Matthew is real and will play a big part in the steering for Matthew. Euro continues to trend weaker with the ridge to Matthew's east due to this feature. This makes sense given that Matthew's future outflow will help amplify the ULL to the east.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1955 Postby HurrMark » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:28 pm

Looks like it is a tad east and a bit faster from 00Z. Its final approach to Jamaica is from the SE, not the S-SSE so it somewhat "corrected" itself...
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1956 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:28 pm

wxman57 wrote:I plotted the 12Z GFS (red), the 12Z EC (blue) and the 00Z EC (black) on my workstation. See below. Valid time is 21Z Sunday (4 days from now). The GFS is still way farther north and faster, but the 12Z EC is a fair bit east-northeast of the 00Z EC.

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Think that's a big difference on a 4 day forecast ?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1957 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:29 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:


Big trend towards GFS. Given that Matthew has been generally north of guidance so far, would not be surprised if that continued in subsequent runs (up through 5-6 days, then it's all up for grabs).


I would care to guess that by tomorrow afternoon all models will be OTS (as far as US impacts). Still plenty of time to change but could end up being 11 years without a major hit on the US if trends continue. I feel really bad for the people impacted in the Caribbean because they will see a really bad storm more than likely.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1958 Postby chris_fit » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:30 pm

Euro good chuck to the east @144 - will it bend back west like previous runs is the question! 500mb heights show a way out east, for now.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1959 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:31 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#1960 Postby HurrMark » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:31 pm

Oooh...that's a shift east from 00Z. Tip of Cuba rather than right over eastern Cuba...moving NNE
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