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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - Special Tropical Weather Outlook

#521 Postby Kazmit » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:26 pm

Not a TS yet as of a lack of a closed circulation. I think by 11pm EDT we'll have Matthew.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#522 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:28 pm

Hammy wrote:This is looking quite poorly organized, and not at all stacked--any formative LLC is under 25kt southerly shear while the models were more than likely focusing on the MLC.

Not what the NHC is saying
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#523 Postby p1nheadlarry » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:31 pm

Hammy wrote:This is looking quite poorly organized, and not at all stacked--any formative LLC is under 25kt southerly shear while the models were more than likely focusing on the MLC.


It looks like you're on to something. The LLC looks to be south of the broader turn where the higher winds seem to be according to recon. Maybe the GFS likes that spot?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - Special Tropical Weather Outlook

#524 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:37 pm

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Up to T2.0/2.0 at 1745z... I guess they like 12.4N... Matt on it's way...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#525 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:05 pm

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Visible Loop Before Sunset...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#526 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:10 pm

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First advisory track for Hermine... Didn't miss by much... Interested to see the first track for 97L...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#527 Postby SeGaBob » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:13 pm

Seems to be becoming better organized each new frame.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#528 Postby RL3AO » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:16 pm

Needs a big convective blowup tonight and it should be on its way.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#529 Postby Bones2016 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:16 pm

This could be the storm of the century. My foot is so swollen that I can't walk. Florida will get hit. Putting my shutters tomorrow morning. Hope everyone is prepared.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#530 Postby La Sirena » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:18 pm

Bones2016 wrote:This could be the storm of the century. My foot is so swollen that I can't walk. Florida will get hit. Putting my shutters tomorrow morning. Hope everyone is prepared.

You posted about this recently.....what was your record? It was impressive I remember! :sun:

Where are you in Florida? I'm here myself.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#531 Postby davidiowx » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:19 pm

Bones2016 wrote:This could be the storm of the century. My foot is so swollen that I can't walk. Florida will get hit. Putting my shutters tomorrow morning. Hope everyone is prepared.


Sorry to hear about your foot, but insinuating Florida is going to get hit is not very smart. There is still A LOT of uncertainties with this storm. Models will flip and flop quite a bit each day. Especially when the storm isn't even developed yet.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#532 Postby drewschmaltz » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:28 pm

davidiowx wrote:
Bones2016 wrote:This could be the storm of the century. My foot is so swollen that I can't walk. Florida will get hit. Putting my shutters tomorrow morning. Hope everyone is prepared.


Sorry to hear about your foot, but insinuating Florida is going to get hit is not very smart. There is still A LOT of uncertainties with this storm. Models will flip and flop quite a bit each day. Especially when the storm isn't even developed yet.


Yes I agree far too many uncertainties to feel comfortable predicting the path of the storm based on a swollen foot. I believe somewhere inside the five-day cone is where member swelling forecast belong. The problem is not with the methodology it is certainly fool proof the problem is with the sample size if we had more samples from Florida and that would mean more reports of swollen members then we could feel more certain in a forecast. At least the data points would mitigate some of the liability.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#533 Postby abajan » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:37 pm

Barbados Met Services Severe Weather Statement #6

Personal Observation: A number of cumulonimbi around. Otherwise, nothing unusual.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#534 Postby Bones2016 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:37 pm

La Sirena wrote:
Bones2016 wrote:This could be the storm of the century. My foot is so swollen that I can't walk. Florida will get hit. Putting my shutters tomorrow morning. Hope everyone is prepared.

You posted about this recently.....what was your record? It was impressive I remember! :sun:

Where are you in Florida? I'm here myself.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#535 Postby Ken711 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:48 pm

Bones2016 wrote:This could be the storm of the century. My foot is so swollen that I can't walk. Florida will get hit. Putting my shutters tomorrow morning. Hope everyone is prepared.


Don't think so, NC/VA landfall is my guess once it tracks up the Eastern Atlantic coastline.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#536 Postby Steve » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:49 pm

drewschmaltz wrote:
davidiowx wrote:
Bones2016 wrote:This could be the storm of the century. My foot is so swollen that I can't walk. Florida will get hit. Putting my shutters tomorrow morning. Hope everyone is prepared.


Sorry to hear about your foot, but insinuating Florida is going to get hit is not very smart. There is still A LOT of uncertainties with this storm. Models will flip and flop quite a bit each day. Especially when the storm isn't even developed yet.


Yes I agree far too many uncertainties to feel comfortable predicting the path of the storm based on a swollen foot. I believe somewhere inside the five-day cone is where member swelling forecast belong. The problem is not with the methodology it is certainly fool proof the problem is with the sample size if we had more samples from Florida and that would mean more reports of swollen members then we could feel more certain in a forecast. At least the data points would mitigate some of the liability.


I'm thinking I don't any more reports on those. Some cold high cloudtops shopping up on RBTOP but obviously disorganized. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... imated.gif
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#537 Postby sunnyday » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:56 pm

Is 5 days before landfall the earliest reliable time to get a valid, accurate prediction of where the storm is likely to strike? What day should we feel we have the real story on Matthew assuming he develops? Thanks for the info...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#538 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:04 pm

Blown Away wrote:http://i68.tinypic.com/2gvlvkw.jpg
First advisory track for Hermine... Didn't miss by much... Interested to see the first track for 97L...


I'll guarantee you that the first track on "Matthew" won't miss by much, as there is good model consensus out to 5 days. However, if the NHC had to make a 7 or 10-day track, well, that's a whole different story.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#539 Postby msbee » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:08 pm

abajan wrote:Barbados Met Services Severe Weather Statement #6

Personal Observation: A number of cumulonimbi around. Otherwise, nothing unusual.


stay safe, Abajan
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#540 Postby robbielyn » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:08 pm

La Sirena wrote:
Bones2016 wrote:This could be the storm of the century. My foot is so swollen that I can't walk. Florida will get hit. Putting my shutters tomorrow morning. Hope everyone is prepared.

You posted about this recently.....what was your record? It was impressive I remember! :sun:

Where are you in Florida? I'm here myself.

He said 6 out of 7 times. But 97L's weather can't possibly be affecting florida weather causing your foot to swell the last few days. I think as the barometer was dropping at your house as a storm was nearby approaching then yes but not this early out.
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