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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#281 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:12 pm

26/2345 UTC 11.2N 51.1W T1.0/1.0 97L -- Atlantic
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#282 Postby Alyono » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:24 pm

This needs to slow down. Its now moving at 25 kts. It could wind up west of the anti cyclone. No model showed this
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#283 Postby Gustywind » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:26 pm

cycloneye wrote:
26/2345 UTC 11.2N 51.1W T1.0/1.0 97L -- Atlantic

That's why i posted that (see below)... maybe showing what we were talking about yesterday night Luis ...with these expanding banding of convection in the north and northeast quadrant of 97L trying to race on more wnw course than Westerly?!

Whereas if this trend continues, islands north of Martinica could feel more effects than expected, shoud it verfies first. Let's wait and see.

From SSD... maintains 1.0 numbers while seems a bit more north in latitude...

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
26/2345 UTC 11.2N 51.1W T1.0/1.0 97L
26/1745 UTC 10.2N 48.3W T1.0/1.0 97L
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#284 Postby hcane27 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:33 pm

Alyono wrote:This needs to slow down. Its now moving at 25 kts. It could wind up west of the anti cyclone. No model showed this


And this would inhibit strengthening ??
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#285 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:34 pm

00z Best Track:

AL, 97, 2016092700, , BEST, 0, 102N, 502W, 25, 1008, DB
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#286 Postby Alyono » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:35 pm

cycloneye wrote:00z Best Track:

AL, 97, 2016092700, , BEST, 0, 102N, 502W, 25, 1008, DB


The bt position is a movement of 18 kts which is fine
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#287 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:36 pm

hcane27 wrote:
Alyono wrote:This needs to slow down. Its now moving at 25 kts. It could wind up west of the anti cyclone. No model showed this


And this would inhibit strengthening ??


Yep and you can see what Alyono is referring to in the image below. Anticyclone is over it but there is shear ahead of it to the west:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#288 Postby robbielyn » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:37 pm

Alyono wrote:This needs to slow down. Its now moving at 25 kts. It could wind up west of the anti cyclone. No model showed this

what are the implications of this if it doesn't slow down and outruns the anticyclone? less chance of development? that would keep it from development till west of 70 and support the euro no? the original forecast was 20-25mph when it was still a pouch two days ago then reforcasted down to 15-20 mph. euro keeps it weak til after crossing windwards
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#289 Postby Alyono » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:41 pm

robbielyn wrote:
Alyono wrote:This needs to slow down. Its now moving at 25 kts. It could wind up west of the anti cyclone. No model showed this

what are the implications of this if it doesn't slow down and outruns the anticyclone? less chance of development? that would keep it from development till west of 70 and support the euro no? the original forecast was 20-25mph when it was still a pouch two days ago then reforcasted down to 15-20 mph. euro keeps it weak til after crossing windwards


Even the ec slows this down dramatically
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#290 Postby TJRE » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:43 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#291 Postby robbielyn » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:44 pm

Alyono wrote:
robbielyn wrote:
Alyono wrote:This needs to slow down. Its now moving at 25 kts. It could wind up west of the anti cyclone. No model showed this

what are the implications of this if it doesn't slow down and outruns the anticyclone? less chance of development? that would keep it from development till west of 70 and support the euro no? the original forecast was 20-25mph when it was still a pouch two days ago then reforcasted down to 15-20 mph. euro keeps it weak til after crossing windwards


Even the ec slows this down dramatically

levi cowan said it would run into some shear and that would keep it weak till after windwards.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#292 Postby CDO62 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:48 pm



Very cool. Thanks
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#293 Postby TJRE » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:50 pm

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0000 UTC 500mb steering layer....fwiw :idea:

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/d ... oom=&time=

scroll back thru the time step box....from the above link
possible west to southwest influence (trend) has begun
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#294 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:55 pm

TCFA



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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#295 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:55 pm

cycloneye wrote:00z Best Track:

AL, 97, 2016092700, , BEST, 0, 102N, 502W, 25, 1008, DB


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#296 Postby stormreader » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:06 pm

Posted a couple of hours ago on model thread. I favor a western solution toward the Yucatan Channel for the storm. But I just looked at the storm loop for the first time today. Man, the system is really looking "bad"! And I mean bad as in serious. Take a look."! Very large and rolling in. Image
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#297 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:11 pm

White indicates high rain-rate hot towers, firing on the periphery of the circulation.

This could end up being a wide core.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#298 Postby abajan » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:12 pm

Alyono wrote:This needs to slow down. Its now moving at 25 kts. ...

That's the first thing which struck me when I viewed the latest IR satellite loop:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#299 Postby Sanibel » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:45 pm

Looks poorly organized to me.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#300 Postby USTropics » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:52 pm

The vorticity has been improving at all levels today, the circulation is just very large and still moving at a fast pace. It's not poorly organized compared to yesterday, that's for sure. Gradual development as expected.

lol-level vorticity at 850mb:
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The 500mb vort barely registered last night, looking better today:
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