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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#321 Postby JaxGator » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:35 pm

Fishing wrote:This is the best season (tracking wise) in a very long time ! It seems like forever since we've had such unpredictability.


Tell me about it. This will catch some people off guard but we and the pros are on it. It's closer to Jax than I thought (with TS winds). :eek:
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#322 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:35 pm

funny its also going to go straight to TS.. lol trends continue with the llc and vorticity clearly moving offshore... 5pm could have a new TS too funny
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#323 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:36 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:funny its also going to go straight to TS.. lol trends continue with the llc and vorticity clearly moving offshore... 5pm could have a new TS too funny


Somebody mentioned Jerry 1995 as a comparison, funny this would also be J.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#324 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:40 pm

TS Tammy

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VS. TS Jerry original forecast for 93L was very similar to track jerry took.. now its more like Tammy. mix between them.

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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#325 Postby Steve » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:48 pm

JaxGator wrote:
Fishing wrote:This is the best season (tracking wise) in a very long time ! It seems like forever since we've had such unpredictability.


Tell me about it. This will catch some people off guard but we and the pros are on it. It's closer to Jax than I thought (with TS winds). :eek:


Agreed. It's the subtropics in September. Almost anything is possible, and things happen quickly sometimes. I'm not going to be surprised if ex-92L spins up something over the weekend as well (even if weak and unclassified). It's that time of year, and it doesn't always take much to get a TD or named system going.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#326 Postby OntarioEggplant » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:49 pm

Does anyone else feel like with at least 93L, and one can argue 92L as well, that the NHC is dropping the ball on observations of these invests with respect to recon?
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#327 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:52 pm

strong tornado signature in southern brevard county and its growing.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#328 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:52 pm

Yet another "homebrew" system this season that had it had more time over water could have been significant. The other one that comes to mind is the Gulf low last month that should have been a hurricane if not a major but it stayed just inland along the northern Gulf coast.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#329 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:55 pm

Got to love surprising home development.
Feeder band south of Orlando:
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#330 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:56 pm

This is hilariously quick escalation. I'm all ears now.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#331 Postby JaxGator » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:56 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:strong tornado signature in southern brevard county and its growing.


Tornado warning just issued.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - 2 PM EDT TWO=Up to 40%-40% - Advisories could be initiated this afternoon

#332 Postby Fishing » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:59 pm

OntarioEggplant wrote:Does anyone else feel like with at least 93L, and one can argue 92L as well, that the NHC is dropping the ball on observations of these invests with respect to recon?

No not at all.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - Discussion - Advisories could be initiated thia afternoon

#333 Postby Emmett_Brown » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:05 pm

I think, as many people thought, disturbances are struggling, and moving further westward, getting closer to land areas. When they finally do pop, it's really close to land, after days of struggling... which is a hard thing to predict.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - Discussion - Advisories could be initiated thia afternoon

#334 Postby LarryWx » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:16 pm

Exactly one week ago, abajan got the board's attention when he posted this visible loop at the time it was an impressive low level swirl near 13N, 45W as pouch 32L:

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I really think it may have had a LLC all of the way back to at least then.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - Discussion - Advisories could be initiated thia afternoon

#335 Postby Steve » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:19 pm

Hey segaBob,

Looks like CMC 12Z keeps it around you guys for about 7 days or so and then Ivan's it back south and across Florida into the Gulf. That suggests to me that the weather pattern is too complicated for it to figure out what happens to the low. Eventually ridging will set back up in the SW Atlantic per Super Typhoon Meranti's impacts to China. So if it's around in a week, you could see it sinking back Southward or a piece of it if the top shears off.

Caveat: I'm not buying the Canadian, it's just a model, and Bob had asked if there was a way up and out.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - Discussion - Advisories could be initiated thia afternoon

#336 Postby SeaBrz_FL » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:20 pm

Raining like hell here all day in Cape Canaveral, but winds have really picked up over past 90 minutes.

Per Tom Terry (WFTV) minutes ago -- publicly confirmed tornado reported in Barefoot Bay, 40% chance of low developing to TS, 55 mph winds recorded east of Daytona.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - Discussion - Advisories could be initiated thia afternoon

#337 Postby JaxGator » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:25 pm

The wind has picked up a little bit from 2 hours ago when it was almost still. Also the pressure is now 1014mb and falling. A 4 mb drop.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - Discussion - Advisories could be initiated thia afternoon

#338 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:30 pm

I'm not seeing where any 34kt winds were reported by a coastal buoy. I see the buoy east of the cape reported 25 kts max. Where is the evidence of TS winds? Radar won't count, as unless the radar is at Daytona Beach it's looking well above the surface (2000-7000ft at 50nm from Melbourne Radar).
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - Discussion - Advisories could be initiated thia afternoon

#339 Postby LarryWx » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:31 pm

Very heavy thunderstorm has just come off the ocean here in SAV from a band of showers and tstorms.
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Re: ATL; INVEST 93L - Discussion - Advisories could be initiated thia afternoon

#340 Postby JaxGator » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:36 pm

wxman57 wrote:I'm not seeing where any 34kt winds were reported by a coastal buoy. I see the buoy east of the cape reported 25 kts max. Where is the evidence of TS winds? Radar won't count, as unless the radar is at Daytona Beach it's looking well above the surface (2000-7000ft at 50nm from Melbourne Radar).


Well, the NHC says there's TS winds in the convection off shore but if it's not a TS, then TD most likely.
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