Why aren't we hearing about the good news in Iraq....hmmmmm?

[Aquawind]

Interesting discussion.. This AM on Fox n Friends they had one of their in the field reporters with a segment on this exact issue about the media failing to show the positives of change. THey were talking in third person..like they are not media..

[GalvestonDuck]

Why do people march en masse with signs in protest of our president and yet no one is out there protesting Saddam?

[Lindaloo]

Why do people march en masse with signs in protest of our president and yet no one is out there protesting Saddam?

Great point!!

[Aquawind]

Why do people march en masse with signs in protest of our president and yet no one is out there protesting Saddam?

Well with more knowledge and thus a higher level of learning of topics other than religion..we are more critical as well. Besides Saddam is a done deal..

[opera ghost]

Why do people march en masse with signs in protest of our president and yet no one is out there protesting Saddam?

Protesting Sadam....
Here... or in Iraq?

If you mean here- they are, quite happily. They're signing up for the military or working for the removal of him from power.... that's the good ol' american way. It's not focused on in the media because it's all that's right, bright, and beautiful in the good ol' american way.

It's considered "un-american" these days to protest the president, a war or our government in any way... which is why they're getting the spotlight. EVIL un-amercans! How dare they speak against all that is good and right in the world. For SHAME on the evil un-americans- who could they question our great and glorious leaders? How can they question war? How can they question!!!! What right do they have?

Fortunetly those evil un-americans aren't living in Iraq- where protesting the government coud lead to immediate execution. That's why the people of ~Iraq~ don't protest.

Thank GOD I was born an evil little un-american with the constitutionally given right to say up yours to the people in power and go on living my happy little life

*tips hat polietly and marches on merrily back to the other posts*

[j]

geeeez....I'm speechless..as soon as the steam clears in front of my monitor, I'll try to respond

[GalvestonDuck]

I mean, How about in Canada, France, Germany, UK, Mexico?

I know what we're doing here. And I know why they can't protest in Iraq.

Just a reminder, Opera -- you have the constitutional right to say "up yours" but it won't be for long if we don't fight to keep it that way. A few more bombs, a few more hijackers, and a few more days like 9/11 and the "people in power" will be those who execute you for speaking out.

You keep tipping your hat, fingers, and whatever else and they'll keep fighting to let you do it...even if it's directed at them.

[Lindaloo]

Yes and I have that right to say "up yours" too opera.

**tips hat and skips along**

[j]

....may I 2nd that?...till tomorrow..

[Stephanie]

*SIGH*

It's always nice to see differences of opinion respected.

[JQ Public]

I know what you mean linda, but might i add people here have said many harsh things about europe too. He (paolo) isn't here asking for explainations he's just giving an opinion. Its interesting to watch.

[streetsoldier]

I believe that our President laid it all out VERY clearly, one week after 9-11-01; that this a global war against a shadowy, cowardly foe, and anyone who gives support, or does so by doing nothing is aiding them; and "if you aren't with us, you are against us". That's plain enough, y'think?

THEY...Al-Qaida, Abu Sayyaf, Al-Aqsa, Al-Capone, whoever, set the perameters...be killed, or kill, NO "half-way". We either meet that threat with equal ferocity, or lie down and watch helplessly as radical, backward Wahhabi Islam takes over, piece by piece, country by country. And throws the world back 14 centuries in the process.

NO, THANK YOU.

[Lindaloo]

Okay JQ.

[ColdFront77]

Fox & Friends co-host E.D. Hill said (in the shows advertisement last night) that they will have coverage on the good things that are happening in Iraq this morning, during their 3-hour broadcast.

[j]

Yeah..I called E.D. yesterday and told her they need to do some positive reporting. Then we met for lunch.

[j]

I believe that our President laid it all out VERY clearly, one week after 9-11-01; that this a global war against a shadowy, cowardly foe, and anyone who gives support, or does so by doing nothing is aiding them; and "if you aren't with us, you are against us". That's plain enough, y'think?

As a Patriotic, loyal American...I didn't have a problem with it. In fact...I was a proud American, like so many other's in this Country. Funny isn't it...that the support behind the President was almost unanimous across the Country, when the memory of the carnage we all witnessed on 911 was still fresh in our memories.

[opera ghost]

I mean, How about in Canada, France, Germany, UK, Mexico?

I know what we're doing here. And I know why they can't protest in Iraq.

Just a reminder, Opera -- you have the constitutional right to say "up yours" but it won't be for long if we don't fight to keep it that way. A few more bombs, a few more hijackers, and a few more days like 9/11 and the "people in power" will be those who execute you for speaking out.

You keep tipping your hat, fingers, and whatever else and they'll keep fighting to let you do it...even if it's directed at them.

It'll take a lot more than a few bombs or a few hijackers to destroy this country- I'm a VERY proud American and we have survived the worst the world had to offer in our history- we've survived one of the bloddiest civial wars in history and still managed to come out in tact and on the top. We are set up in a prime location with weaker (military only) countries to our north and south- and no countries to either side who could engage in land wars. We are massive in scope and massive in arrogance. I'm CERTAIN we're due for a taking down at some point- but it won't be in my lifetime and it will take the entire world to unseat the US from it's current stable, secure position as one of the super powers of the world. The only way the world is going to WANT to take us down that peg- is if we break from the UN repeatedly, become agressive, and begin taking out smaller powers.

I will happily eat my crow if terrorists can manage to come in on such a scope to destroy A) our national government (that's not so difficult all things told- we're pretty centrally located) but also B) infiltrate the american populace to the extent where they can take over the state and local governments. The only way to inforce a snuff on our ideas, our constitution, and to silence America would be to bring enough foriegners in to subdue all pockets of protest- stop all of the revolts of the american populace- from the farmers to the corporates who would die before they allowed someone to remove thier lierties. And to install thier government in it's place.

Frankly, just between you and I, there are far far too few terrorists to take over to that extent as quickly as they would have to. They would have to be equiped with more than just bombs and hijacked airliners. They would have to mount a full scale invasion of american soil... and they would have to subdue our shores before they could even think about our interior. We are a massive nation. Larger than all of europe combined. and we are very very populated across the shores.

The terrorists have no interest in destroying America- or taking over America and putting thier own leaders in charge. God bless America- for we are a dream that they will never realize. THIER goal is to destroy our way of life through fear and terror. To destroy the American dreams and lives in suburbs and in cities, in rural cummunities and in towns through fear. They want us so afraid of them that we cannot continue to live the American dream. They want us so afraid that our liberties are taken away- so afraid that we don't let our children play on yards. They WANT us to approve strict policies- government monitoring- to mount a "war" on "terror". To mount an interior war on the liberty we hold so dear.

Fear, restrictions, a populace of people who DEMAND that we remove thier liberties in pursuit of thier safety... that's the kind of America that terrorists want to see- a public as brainwashed as thiers that the only true path to freedom is through the removal of liberty.

I don't rally against the troops. I don't protest the war. I'm not out there with signs screaming that they're killing innocenet men and children. I'm not hugging trees or doing hunger strikes. I don't vote one way or another on my ballots. I live my life- to it's fullest. I accept the risk that living in a war torn world gives. I support my relitives and friends in the military with all my might. I hug them and tell them I love them even if I don't agree with what they're doing. I ride airplanes. I visit sky scrapers. I forced myself to walk in downtown of my city untill my crawling fear of falling buildings went away. I breathe in and breathe out not particularily worrying if the air is full of WMD's...

I love. I laugh. I live. But I do not fear. Death comes from many places- my mother in law died at the hands of doctors who should have saved her. My uncle took a shot gun out and shot himself. But the restriction of my liberties? That can ONLY come from my government.

And I'll thank you polietly for your views- accept that they are CLEARLY not mine- and move on merrily in my own fashion. I am a voice of dissent- but I'm not rallying for other people to support me. I don't need support. But it's a very american thing to nod and say up yours to me and I salute anyone's right to do so and encourage them to do so ANY time they disagree with me! Doesn't that feel lovely?

But I also say we can agree to disagree- especially since this isn't a political board. Now I'm going to go check out whether we have Juan Kate or Larry to contend with... cause weather doens't care about politics LOL

[GalvestonDuck]

In a roundabout way, we've agreed. This country is strong and it would take a lot to bring us to our knees. Yes, I know it would take a lot more than "a few more bombs." But you get my drift.

You're not really the voice of dissent since you haven't spoken out against the war.

I don't rally against the troops. I don't protest the war. I'm not out there with signs screaming that they're killing innocenet men and children. I'm not hugging trees or doing hunger strikes. I don't vote one way or another on my ballots. I live my life- to it's fullest. I accept the risk that living in a war torn world gives. I support my relitives and friends in the military with all my might. I hug them and tell them I love them even if I don't agree with what they're doing. I ride airplanes. I visit sky scrapers. I forced myself to walk in downtown of my city untill my crawling fear of falling buildings went away. I breathe in and breathe out not particularily worrying if the air is full of WMD's...

We also agree that we're free to say "up yours" to each other when we disagree, although a lively debate is more fun than just some finger gestures. In Iraq, they can't...yet.

I'm still asking why no one in the other countries ever marched in protest against Saddam or Osama for that matter?

[Guest]

I've learned to take everything I hear from the media with a grain of salt. They seem to only care about ratings. They (the media) feed the general public information in a way that they CHOOSE to present it. Because of this, I welcome opinions of all people, especially those from other countries. I want to know how the world perceives the actions of the U.S., without the twist our media puts on it. To hear from all different points of view, only then can you truly see the whole picture.

As my mother once told me..... there's my version, there's your version, and then there's the truth.......

[Stephanie]

Great post Opera!